Where the evil villain will go on a rant about how society is cruel and needs to change and that they're going to change it. The hero opposes this for like zero reasons and somehow we're supposed to be on the hero's side.

Are we really supposed to believe that our society doesn't need to change? Are we supposed to cheer for the status quo even when it's shown to be terrible?

I also hate the sympathetic villain trope where it's shown that the villain is the product of abuse and yet their want for revenge is still treated as unjustified.

  • pooh [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    Most of the time I can get over bad plot lines, but that whole “killing half the universe to save the other half” was so terrible that it pretty much ruined the movies for me. I couldn’t he instead just snap his fingers and double the resources? Or why not shrink everyone to where so they consume half as many resources? Also no discussion whatsoever of how resources are distributed and if that’s the most equitable way. I realize I’m preaching to the choir here but that really was one of the worst plot points I’ve ever seen in a big budget movie.

    • Ideology [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Having a "full universe" in the first place is a very silly concept.

    • Camaron29 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      He is the Mad Titan, thought.

      Althought it's kind of weird how no one in those films leaned into that. It's supposed to be a snark fest and yet NO ONE among the heroes took a potshot at his evil and dumb plan???

      • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They did snark at the plan in the most terrible way. For some reason I watched half of the "Marvel: What If"s and the "T'Challa becomes Starlord" one was god awful. Basically they just jerk off T'Challa as the smartest nicest person ever and he's able to magically convince Thanos that his plot was dumb. Then several characters do exactly what you said, take snarky potshots at the Thanos plan being dumb. Which I hate because Disney/Marvel can't take their own premises seriously. You can't set up a sci-fi/fantasy premise then have your characters constantly joke about how dumb the premise is! Just own it!

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Also if you cut a population in half that grows exponentially, you’re doing O(n^2) work for O(log n) results to at best kick the can down the road

      • pooh [she/her, any]
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        2 years ago

        Sounds like Thanos should have been promoting birth control/family planning/equitable resource distribution instead of genociding half the universe.

    • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They did what Marvel always done with the comics: they took one aspect or plotline from the comics that was too wacky to do in a movie, then bent over backwards to try to rationalize it for the movie universe. Civil War took the hero registration plotline and reduced it to "Avengers with government oversight" since none of the heroes had a secret identity anyways..