Good post by David Golumbia on ChatGPT and how miserable it all is :rat-salute-2:

  • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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    Chat GPT can write code. It can debug code. It can design websites. It can translate language better than any automated language translation services. I fail to see how this doesn’t automate socially necessary work and solve problems

    • drhead [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Let's be honest. ChatGPT is copying code snippets from StackOverflow with varying levels of correctness. I guess that is what people were doing anyways though.

      • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        No it isn’t connected to the internet any longer and it creates novel code for requests in plain English that are extremely specific and niche

        • mittens [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It's not connected to the internet but the model was trained (and is constantly re-trained) with shit scrapped from the internet, which makes the distinction meaningless.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The more specific you get the more wrong it tends to get though, it really starts messing up on the small details.

          • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            And this time last year it was much worse and couldn’t even do the more generic requests. It will continue to refine.

            Remember, automation doesn’t need to be better than humans at coding. It just needs to be good enough to function, and then it will take over because it’s basically free

    • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      The legacy code creator. Debugging from scratch every time. Everyone's favorite activity.

      • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        AI has improved exponentially in just the last year. You are completely blind if you do not see the potential this has to basically eliminate nearly all white collar work as it becomes even more sophisticated

        • mittens [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I mean, I'm a bit skeptic because most coding work is actually eternally debugging shitty code, I barely write stuff at my current work, I'm lucky if I get to do more than 20 lines a week, because most of the day is spent browsing undocumented garbage finding the most appropriate place to add my fix in. Leaving that aside, we have always been at risk of white collar jobs being either lost, or precarized, or outsourced, or being flooded with too many workers, or at risk that the bubble will burst fundamentally undermining the value of IT forever, or all of them happening at once. This AI shit might be a catalyst but what has meaningfully changed in the working relationship? We were ALWAYS at risk.