Xinjiang and Human Rights

The Xinjiang Atrocity Propaganda Blitz

Xinjiang: A Report and Resource Compilation

Thread on Xinjiang

Breaking down the BBC’s visit to Hotan, Xinjiang

Post actually going over a BBC report from within one of these centers

The Case of the Keriya Aitika Mosque

Thread on the UN Xinjiang Report

Xinjiang Police Files (XPF) Debunk

Note: The quote from the NYT Article: “absolutely no mercy” was from a 2014 speech on the terror attacks, specifically was referring to the perpetrators of the terror attacks, and did not scapegoat Uyghurs to any extent (what a wonder a three word quote could be taken out of context!) in addition, the phrase “organs of dictatorship” from that speech refers to the proletarian class dictatorship

Diplomatic Visit to Xinjiang by Representatives of Islamic Nations (2022)

Diplomatic Visit to Xinjiang by Representatives of Islamic Nations (2023)

Estimations of 1 million detainees (and onwards):

  1. 2018 UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination report authored by the NGO (Network of) Chinese Human Rights Defenders [which has received NED funding]

The report (which concludes 1.3-2 million detainees) was based on interviews with only 8 Uyghur individuals, then extrapolated to form percent estimates on the population of detainees in the XUAR

Uyghur 'unrest' was a CIA narrative planned to destabilize China, top US army Chief admits. 2018

  1. Adrian Zenz, member of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

Adrian Zenz’s deliberate fabrications regarding sterilization statistics [“new IUD”]

[On “net IUD” (~80% as misleading figure)]

CGTN Documentaries: (the first one is better)

Fighting terrorism in Xinjiang

The black hand — ETIM and terrorism in Xinjiang

White Papers:

The Fight Against Terrorism and Extremism and Human Rights Protection in Xinjiang

Human Rights in Xinjiang - Development and Progress

Cultural Protection and Development in Xinjiang

Vocational Education and Training in Xinjiang

Western Establishment News Reports:

The Independent: More than 35 countries defend China over mass detention of Uighur Muslims in UN letter

Reuters: Diplomatic Visits to Xinjiang by Representatives of Islamic Nations

Associated Press: Terror & Tourism: Xinjiang eases its grip, but fear remains (provided by @stinky)

Foreign Policy: State Department Lawyers Concluded Insufficient Evidence to Prove Genocide in China

  • stinky [any]
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    1 year ago

    I’ll go through these. I’m sure I’ll have questions.

    One of the problems I know already is that blogs etc. are not valid news sources. Even if I trust people here and extend that trust to the blogs y’all cite like Red Sails, that will not convince anyone whose not already pro-China. Their anti-anarchist screeds don’t help their case as an arbiter of truth, btw.

    The article by Associated Press a year or so ago that goes over how the camps etc are basically shut down now does far more to convince people than sites like Gray Zone whose front page looks identical to any number of far-right news sources. Stuff like their anti-vax BS really hurts their credibility and calls into question how accurate their reporting really is.

    Even Sixth Tone, which literally run by the Party, is much more reliable and trustworthy as a source. Unfortunately, they are not a proper daily news outlet, so they don’t cover everything and mostly focus on cultural issues.

    These aren’t non-issues or “whatabout-isms” either. How you treat an issue people know about (in the case of libs, it’s anti-vax bs; in the case of leftists, it’s anarchism) effect how much trust they afford to the source in other issues.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Four years after Beijing launched a brutal crackdown that swept up to a million or more Uyghurs and other mostly Muslim minorities into detention camps and prisons

      I don't think this AP article is helping.

    • robinn [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Grayzone is definitely very iffy but these specific posts are good. I verified each of the blog posts as well. The issue isn't "trust", if I cited a blog as saying something and they didn't prove their point then it would be a bad citation. The only time I cited blog posts was for analysis of establishment news, and critique them if you like but don't just go "they're not valid news sources", because that isn't the issue and nothing is claimed as a revelation or without proof. If the issue is with sharing this to other people, then you should first establish what the difference is between news and analysis.

      Note: That AP article is far too entrenched in propaganda to be shared as a source. You'd have much more trouble with optics in that case.

      • stinky [any]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, I’ll give them a read. As I said, I trust people here enough to not reflexively dismiss the sources. I was just stating my issues with them and why I tend to not use them that often.

        I guess our mileage varies on the AP article. I’ve shown it to people to convince them that China isn’t genociding a million Uyghurs. That leads us to the other parts of the propaganda, yes, but at least it stops them from saying it’s a new Holocaust, which is a win in my book.

        • robinn [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          I agree that it would obviously be preferable to use prestigious sources with good web design and well-known authors. Unfortunately my resources are limited. Feel free to suggest another article and I'll consider adding it (perhaps I could make a "mainstream news" section?).

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      not valid news sources

      This game is unwinnable. If a "valid news source" published something pro-China, then it would cease to be valid in the eyes of liberals. If a person is too close-minded to critically engage with an alternative news source, then they're too close-minded to have their mind changed---so don't bother.