• Gsus4@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once. They act like what the far right imagines the left to be like, but just looks like really bad anti-leftist propaganda, or they're just tankies :/ some hexbears are ok, though, but most here are just discrediting themselves by throwing the propaganda handbook at the passersby.

    • Zoift [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      We keep throwing books at you because we desperately wish you'd read.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      1 year ago

      They act like what the far right imagines the left to be like

      Good, they should be terrified.

      • Gsus4@feddit.nl
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        1 year ago

        No, it is not good, it's sabotage, it feels like the lefty version of r/The_Donald. Supposed leftists bragging about "dunking on shitlibs" lol

        • Zoift [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Then maybe the shitlibs shouldn't be so dunkable.

          This isn't debate club nerd. Nobody is required to be nice to you. We can both offer well intentioned arguements, and also engage in the simple pleasure of calling people dipshits.

        • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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          1 year ago

          Ok when the word "shitlib" is used here we're referring to smug, rude, arrogant, reddit-brained imbeciles who functionally support imperialism, right wing apologia, and casual bigotry. They also operate in bad faith from the get go.

          Uneducated progressive "liberals" who are nonetheless openminded and empathetic are not the people who this term refers to.

          • Gsus4@feddit.nl
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            1 year ago

            Uneducated progressive “liberals” who are nonetheless openminded and empathetic are not the people who this term refers to.

            This still feels a little

            smug, rude, arrogant

            But I'll take it, I'm certainly not an expert on Marxism. It's a useful method of inquiry oftentimes, but there are other worthy worldviews and subjects to spend time on that hardly make me uneducated.

            • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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              1 year ago

              I wasn't referring to you in particular, I was referring to describing types of "liberals" in general. I am not implying that there is something inherently wrong with being uneducated. Everybody is uneducated in a variety of fields outside of their own expertise, such as nuclear physics, foraging, farming, etc. Similarly, most american progressives simply do not know what the terms "left" and "right" mean in a political context, therefore, they are uneducated. Rather, I was implying that these progressives are well meaning, good-hearted people who just need a bit more knowledge as to where they could direct their energy towards political change. I apologize if it came off as condescending, maybe I should have used the term "unactivated" or "new to politics".

              but there are other worthy worldviews and subjects to spend time on that hardly make me uneducated

              Thats good, keep reading. If you are interested in politics then I would recommend reading the works of Micheal Parenti.

              • Gsus4@feddit.nl
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                1 year ago

                Yeah, mostly agree, people are kept from thinking and complaining too much by being overworked, stressed, distracted, manipulated, demotivated, denied access, captured by cults, etc :/ sooo ... fuck IP law and let's get pirating, books ain't gonna read themselves :D

        • TeddyKila [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          "Im not owned! Im not owned! I shriek as I shrink and slowly turn into a corncob"

    • Jesus@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once

      Exactly this. They're running around spewing barely-sensical insults acting like they're dunking on people, but all their really doing is turning off anyone who was ever possibly sympathetic to their cause. And are completely un-informed on top of that

            • Jesus@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Is being uninformed suspicious?

              Yes. You're starting to get it. Being willfully uninformed and forcefully pushing that uninformed view in an organized way is suspicious. Ergo the comparison to the Maga's and anti-vaxxers. 🤦

              • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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                1 year ago

                willfully uninformed

                you initially confused the words "un-informed" and "dishonest". Most literate liberal

              • Zoift [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Forcefully pushing our views by uhhhhbhhhh... Shitposting.

                Political power grows out of the barrel of cumposting.

                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  political power grows out of the asshole of a pig, then falls onto its testicles.