The way "tankie" is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.
Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can't possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I'm not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we're bots is even more laughable.
Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the "bot" propaganda has been.
At this point I don't think you're a bot but it's pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
What can I say, we're a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we're, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There's also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
Damn, thats weird because every community I'm a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I'm in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I'm pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
What a beautiful brain you have you think anyone has been running a website full of bots for three years in the hope that one day Reddit might implode and they can be used to trick some lost redditors.
You're talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You're also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You're also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it's very possible you're a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
Or you could go and look at the three years of post history the community has, which notably does not revolve around some herculean effort to gaslight a tiny handful of people from sites that did not exist for 90% of hexbear's existence and that no one had any realistic expectation would ever exist.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
LOL try to be a little more realistic of a bot, no human talks like.
If you really thought they person you were talking too was an AI, you wouldn't be trying these snarky jabs. What, you think you're going to hurt a computers feelings?
So you're just gonna double down on the "actually my shadowy enemies are both impossibly more technologically advanced than the imperial core, but also too stupid to use that advantage and instead waste massive amounts of effort specifically in preparation to gaslight me, the main character, due to their impossible prescience that one day I, the main character, would be using a fringe social media website in the middle of the night, prescience that is literally only used for that one purpose and that purpose alone because it so import to trick me, the main character," theory then?
Congratulations, you've successfully gaslit yourself into defining away everyone who disagrees with you as a "bot" and now find yourself haunted on all sides by your shadowy enemies.
And for everyone else: what do you think the odds are some of this unfortunate poster's brainworm infestation was seeded by literal CIA/State Department astroturfing bots? I give it about a 50/50 that that was an important infection vector, and a good 90% chance that they've nodded along while looking at CIA copypasta bot and uncritically believed whatever racist thing it was telling them to.
The way "tankie" is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.
Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can't possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I'm not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we're bots is even more laughable.
Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the "bot" propaganda has been.
At this point I don't think you're a bot but it's pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
What can I say, we're a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we're, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There's also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
Damn, thats weird because every community I'm a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I'm in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I'm pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
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Test running the bots + making it seem more realistic is definitely feasible.
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They're on every corner of the internet buddy, fake accounts are dirt cheap to run especially in Russia.
Or, maybe, just maybe - and I know it's hard for some one like you to believe - there are just people out there who disagree with you.
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What a beautiful brain you have you think anyone has been running a website full of bots for three years in the hope that one day Reddit might implode and they can be used to trick some lost redditors.
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We love our comrades don't we folks?
You're talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You're also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You're also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it's very possible you're a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
everyone on the internet is a bot except for you
everyone on the internet is a bot except for you
Or you could go and look at the three years of post history the community has, which notably does not revolve around some herculean effort to gaslight a tiny handful of people from sites that did not exist for 90% of hexbear's existence and that no one had any realistic expectation would ever exist.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
LOL try to be a little more realistic of a bot, no human talks like.
If you really thought they person you were talking too was an AI, you wouldn't be trying these snarky jabs. What, you think you're going to hurt a computers feelings?
Humans will read my comments too.
Yeah, and see that you clearly don't actually think you're arguing with an AI.
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So you're just gonna double down on the "actually my shadowy enemies are both impossibly more technologically advanced than the imperial core, but also too stupid to use that advantage and instead waste massive amounts of effort specifically in preparation to gaslight me, the main character, due to their impossible prescience that one day I, the main character, would be using a fringe social media website in the middle of the night, prescience that is literally only used for that one purpose and that purpose alone because it so import to trick me, the main character," theory then?
Buddy the Russians have tens of millions of bots on every site they're not just trying to get me.
The chatbots I'm seeing from you guys aren't even all that realistic.
Congratulations, you've successfully gaslit yourself into defining away everyone who disagrees with you as a "bot" and now find yourself haunted on all sides by your shadowy enemies.
And for everyone else: what do you think the odds are some of this unfortunate poster's brainworm infestation was seeded by literal CIA/State Department astroturfing bots? I give it about a 50/50 that that was an important infection vector, and a good 90% chance that they've nodded along while looking at CIA copypasta bot and uncritically believed whatever racist thing it was telling them to.
Are these Russians in the room with us right now?
You caught us, we are all
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your worldview is 1) dehumanizing and 2) utterly non-falsifiable. treat people like people.