• ElHexo [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Soundproof their apartment because they don't have a right to ruin land because they haven't been socialised properly

    • golden_zealot@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Just going to throw out there that this is not an option for a lot of people.

      My condo, built in 2005 has paper thin floors consisting of a thin layer of concrete and a thin layer of metal.

      To sound proof from the sound of my neighbors above me would require literally destroying their floor and compromising the integrity of the building. I would never be allowed to do this even if I had the money to do it

      Furthermore, I don't think it's me that isn't socialized, I think it's probably my upstairs neighbors who would scream at each other and throw a shopping cart across their condo at 3 am.

      I'm all for condos, but condos or apartments actually working reasonably require that every single person living in them is capable of acting reasonably, and that they are built properly.

      I should have rights too, just like the land should.

      Until this is solved most people will always buy houses over apartments if possible.

      • rogrodre [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        You add sound proofing to the ceiling, then another sheet of drywall, or skip the drywall if door frames might get in the way. Also, your experience with a bad neighbor doesn't mean medium or high density housing isn't the correct solution to a lot of problems.

        • golden_zealot@lemmy.ml
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          10 months ago

          Not once did I say "medium or high density housing isn't the correct solution to a lot of problems."

          I said:

          I’m all for condos, but condos or apartments actually working reasonably require that every single person living in them is capable of acting reasonably, and that they are built properly.

          Please don't put words in my mouth just because I wanted to raise a criticism.

          I'm just raising the contention that for a major shift from people wanting houses to wanting apartments, apartments should be built such that they are as reasonable to live in as a house, ie, built soundproof.

          For public support to shift heavily to medium/high density housing over houses, these kinds of issues having to do with build quality would have to be addressed first.

          There is more to do with this than sound proofing as well such as the inability to install sufficient air conditioning in medium/high density housing, even with warming climates, due to condo board or HOA restrictions.