Its not that weird when you understand it mostly functions as a vent sub for teachers. I used to be subbed, and it was sometimes cathartic, but eventually it was just too doomery
Now that I'm home and can charge my phone, a longer response. Calling teachers cruel is not a principled critique of schooling, compulsory or otherwise. It's a lib-brained take to think that systemic and structural issues are a result of the individual virtue of people involved
I always wonder what people's childhoods were like
I'm absolutely fine with admitting that, if that was your intention. I've seen quite a bit of unprincipled teacher bashing on Hexbear before and I'll call it out when I see it.
Yes, but then you responded to me after I responded to someone else in the thread, so I didn't think we were on the same page. I'm going to chalk it up to a misunderstanding and move on
The problem is not that teachers individually are authoritarian, but that the education system is and can only be authoritarian under capitalism. Also, I only invite people to send me Foucault, something which, crucially, you have never done
IME the sub is filled with libs with a purely individualist perspective on the behaviour of the students they whine about. There is no conception that there are greater material and social forces that might maximize the chance that certain kids act out while other kids are polite and do all their homework without asking. Instead they're putting the blame on literal children and then don't understand why that might actually make at-risk kids display antisocial behaviour.
They understand it starts at home but they never seem to wonder why it starts in some homes and not others. What are the material reasons why some parents are able to give their children a lot of attention, support, counselling and care while other parents aren't? Blaming parents is basically the same thing as blaming children at a certain point.
Teachers just don’t have the power to do anything about it
Teachers have the power to deal with the children compassionately, rather than blame them for being bad individuals
That sub is genuinely a distilled stew of the clueless cruelty of school teachers in the imperial core
Glad someone is fighting the good fight against the greatest enemies of the proletariat: teachers and bed times
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Its not that weird when you understand it mostly functions as a vent sub for teachers. I used to be subbed, and it was sometimes cathartic, but eventually it was just too doomery
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They're probably used to dealing with almost that exact mix in school when they're in the teacher's lounge.
Its an honourable fight. My teachers made me miserable by bullying the shit out of me and my parents sent me to bed at 7pm until i was 18.
I will continue fighting until teachers and bed times are abolished.
I'm a teacher, comrade.
Lmao, me too. Never mind, carry on comrade
Let's be fair, excessively punitive teachers can really fuck kids over
There are absolutely shitty teachers
I always wonder what people's childhoods were like that they trivialize criticisms of compulsory schooling.
Now that I'm home and can charge my phone, a longer response. Calling teachers cruel is not a principled critique of schooling, compulsory or otherwise. It's a lib-brained take to think that systemic and structural issues are a result of the individual virtue of people involved
Fuck off
Funny this is the exact way that sub treats student behaviour, but it's the critique of this that's lib apparently
That take on student behavior is both bad and cringe, and so is the critique
You can just admit you got prickly because you assumed a criticism of a bunch of r*dditors was a criticism of teachers writ large
I'm absolutely fine with admitting that, if that was your intention. I've seen quite a bit of unprincipled teacher bashing on Hexbear before and I'll call it out when I see it.
Comrade I already told you I'm a teacher lol
Yes, but then you responded to me after I responded to someone else in the thread, so I didn't think we were on the same page. I'm going to chalk it up to a misunderstanding and move on
Mummy and daddy hired me private tutors
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The problem is not that teachers individually are authoritarian, but that the education system is and can only be authoritarian under capitalism. Also, I only invite people to send me Foucault, something which, crucially, you have never done
"You Foucault!" - Matt Christman (PBUH) to a tradcath
Does that count sir?
I'll allow it
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IME the sub is filled with libs with a purely individualist perspective on the behaviour of the students they whine about. There is no conception that there are greater material and social forces that might maximize the chance that certain kids act out while other kids are polite and do all their homework without asking. Instead they're putting the blame on literal children and then don't understand why that might actually make at-risk kids display antisocial behaviour.
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They understand it starts at home but they never seem to wonder why it starts in some homes and not others. What are the material reasons why some parents are able to give their children a lot of attention, support, counselling and care while other parents aren't? Blaming parents is basically the same thing as blaming children at a certain point.
Teachers have the power to deal with the children compassionately, rather than blame them for being bad individuals