Some of the very worst of the worst liberal takes, apologia for fascist shit, and of course cryptobro grifts and even Tesla worship keep coming from there. It's fucked.

I don't want to say all programmers or tech workers are like that, but I don't like what I've seen so far from people with a .programming suffix on their names. disgost

  • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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    10 months ago

    @UlyssesT@hexbear.net what are your intentions when making posts like this?

    I took a programming job because it is my primary skill, and I needed insulin so I wouldn't die. I was 40k in medical debt and couldn't even get a goddamn apartment.

    My fellow workers, programmers and engineers, labor to survive. They're not likely to warm to Socialism when they see terminally online takes like this. Why would they?

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Read again.

      I wasn't talking about programmers in general in this thread; I was talking about the distinct number of reactionary and horrid right-wing takes from people with the .programming.dev suffix after their user names coming from the federated spaces.

      I have argued many times in the past that tech workers are still workers even if it's unfortunate that too many fall into reactionary ideology.

      • supermangoman [he/him, they/them]
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        10 months ago

        Consider your rhetoric, and the reactions caused:

        I don't want to say all programmers or tech workers are like that

        I don't think you intend it, but this otherizes a group of us workers. It's not just "wtf is up with programming.dev," but instead this now plants the idea that maybe there's something wrong with this group, specifically. Not just that there's an issue with some random Lemmy instance.

        Look at the reactions, the culture this kind of post creates:

        Engineers are vastly over-represented among extremists

        Also on the business side of things it's filled with the worst people imaginable and if you survive your first year or 2 you select for the people that are willing to put up with the worst people imaginable.

        It is common for STEM folks to have a reductive world view

        As a programmer, I'm here to say that my people are not alright.

        The ugly truth is that IT has always been an industry that caters towards the worst of the bourgeoisie

        And so on, and so forth. At the core, otherization and division. And I don't think a majority of the assertions in this thread are even remotely true.

        To be clear, I don't think you or anyone in this thread means ill by it. But this thread, and threads like it, frustrate me.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Are you blaming me for other people's replies?

          At this point, this sounds like bad faith or even concern trolling for me.

          I'll turn it around, just in case it is not: you're apparently blaming me for deliberately "otherizing" the people you identify with. I could, just as easily, cite decades of "otherizing" non-STEM students and non-STEM (especially non-TE) workers as "underwater basket weavers" "plebians" and a few other trendy condescending titles that amounted to "the ruling class pays them less therefore they are intrinsically less valuable people" ideology.

          If you're going to blame me for replies like that, it really does cut both ways.