• blakeus12 [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    "i am a socialist but every single prominent socialist person or movement or country i hate"

    yeah fuck off

    • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      I never said that. Not even close. I have nothing against socialit people. I definetely dont't have any sort of issue with people coming together and trying to make their country better. I DONT dislike these countries because theyre socialist.

      In fact, most of these countries are chill as fuck.

      Theres one in particular I don't like, and thats mostly because of their nasty habit of censoring anything they dont like.

      I meant what I said, but it feels like everyone sort of fell into the echo chamber and gave me shit because i didnt blindly agree with a faulty rhetoric and a bad faith arguement.

      • blakeus12 [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        what makes this argument "bad faith?" it's saying this:

        if you call yourself a socialist but don't support any socialist movement at all, you aren't a socialist.

        if you support most of these people/countries, then great! but how is this bad faith, at all?

        • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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          10 months ago

          Yeah but also no. I agree with you. If you cant support any socialist movement then youre probably not a socialist. But what this meme is also implying is that you cant be critical of any of these nations if you want to also be a socialist.

          But to also be fair, that might come more from my understand of the meme and not ops original intent. The way its worded is all westerners are like that, but i guess it doesnt really work in a meme format to start making exclusions.

          • blakeus12 [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. But the meme itself says "hate," not "I am critical of." Being critical of leftist movements are super important, and the meme is making fun of the stereotype of a western "leftist" whose only radical opinions are legalizing weed and getting free healthcare.

            • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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              10 months ago

              Yeah, I sorta realized that. I purged my comments because i realized they didnt contribute to anything other than making myself look dumb

              • blakeus12 [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                it takes a lot of strength to admit you were wrong, glad we could have a productive conversation, comrade.