• 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure.

    If you want to abolish the death penalty except in cases where someone does a crime you consider to be really bad, you don't want to abolish the death penalty.

    Similarly, if we talk a big game about how the ills of society influence individual crimes and reduce personal responsibility for those crimes, but then abandon that as soon as we're faced with a really bad crime, our belief isn't all that sincere to begin with.

    • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      I'm not aware that a society with millions of people can exist where killing or the threat of violence is the last resort of not complying with that society's norms. Resorting to violence or killing is generally understood to be the last desparate resort when more peaceful measures are not possible. Having a trial of a contained prisoner and executing said prisoner is the death penalty. Killing a fascist spree killer to save the lives of others is another matter entirely.

      When we are talking politics we must understand that society is influenced by material factors that lead to have people do particular actions. If those actions are common, we may suspect that they are systemic. If they are systemic it is best to change the factors in society that create those bad behaviors.

      If a friend or yourself falls victim to do these bad behaviors society creates, you can tell them to take responsibility for their life as a point of influence and hopefully they can get their shit together in a system that makes it difficult. Whenever fascists talk about "personal responsibility" it is refusing to address a systemic problem