• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        Your principled critic

        Our bad faith argument

        shrug-outta-hecks you don't agree with us. Don't pretend like it's anything different.

        I don't see how the baby bieng thrown out cliche applies. We see libs parroting bullshit we reply, there's no baby to be thrown out when it comes to libs and their propaganda or brainworms

        • BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          Don't know your specific beliefs but no in all liklihood I don't agree with you. I don't think I even remotely preteneded that. We probably agree on some things but I expect our over arching political beliefs are going to be at odds.

          Just for my knowledge is a liberal anyone who isn't a Marxist-leninist? Are Fascists Liberals under your definition?

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            No, just liberals are liberals. People who ultimately support capital and liberal democracy. You don't have to be ML. Hexbear is non-sectarian, but we expect internationalist, anti-capitalist, and supportive of intersectional struggle from people on the actual left.

            Fascism is basically capital abandoning liberalism to defend itself from socialism. So, fascists arent liberals. But sometimes when they get scratched the fash does comes out. Ask the average lib about the homeless, or Roma for european libs.

            If you care more about how we agrue than what we're argueing about then you don't agree with us on anything you wouldn't abandon in a heartbeat

            • Facebones@reddthat.com
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              9 months ago

              But sometimes when they get scratched the fash does comes out.

              My otherwise lib AF friends when I talk about less car centric infrastructure in a nutshell.

              • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                9 months ago

                Carbrain turns libs people into frothingfash pretty fast.

                To be fair, the infastructure in the US and consooom car culture really stacks the deck in favor of car derangement syndrome here

          • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            Literally the first paragraph

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism