• asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    The U.S. doesn't give a shit about winning or losing any war, as long as their owner operators keep transferring $trillions from the working class to their offshore bank accounts. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc... all paid off nicely for the oligarchs.

      • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        they care insomuch as it affects the ability or timing to wage the next one

        The U.S. has been at war with someone for 99% of their existence, nothing much seems to affect their ability or timing.

    • Che's Motorcycle@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Of course, capitalists want to maximize profits - so long as their power isn't threatened. And in all three of these cases, they wanted to send a message to any other countries that would dare not toe the line: "you could be next".

      While they certainly would have preferred different outcomes in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, they may well have succeeded in "containing" communism and intimidating independent thinking - certainly Gaddafi got the message and hoped letting in western oil companies would be enough appeasement. And we know how that turned out...

      • Che's Motorcycle@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        So this might be what makes the Ukraine case different. The West is failing so hard to impose any difficulties on Russia that it's sending a different message to the world - that it can be fought and defeated, and that Global South unity might not only be possible but necessary.