I'm hoping this doesn't start a fight, I'm just curious what the political orientation is of this community. I grew up in a liberal (in the American sense) family, and I identify now as a socialist, though a lot of the liberalism I grew up in has stuck with me, like interest in LGBTQ and women's rights, environmentalism, etc. Wondering where people here land?

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    As I said before, only while states exist.

    Welsh nationalism as a short-term project, because the structure of the UK gives ultimate control to the houses of parliament (a largely unelected seat of power), if any form of communism, let alone anarchist communism, is to be successfully built in Wales we must first be free from direct interference by our neighbours.

      • uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Oh, this is the popular conception of anarchy as a political project, but doesn't really reflect anarchist thought much at all.

        Anarchy is the project of volentary, participatory, and minimally coercive government. You can't really have "no government" in any largish group of people. What you can do is structure that government to have the least amount of heirarchy and control with the greatest amount of participation.

        Counter to popular conception, this actually means a lot of rules, just rules that everyone has a say in making. The goal will be that the rules serve to protect and promote wellbeing while having the minimum impact onthe choices people have available,

        • startrekexplained@startrek.website
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          1 year ago

          What do you mean by "voluntary government"? Basically a government where anyone can opt out? And by participation, do you mean direct democracy?

          • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            There's more to participation than voting. Truly participatory organizations recognize everyone in a community as equal stakeholders in the success of the community, and encourage engagement across all levels of decision making. Think about how you and your friends decide on where to go to dinner, for instance. You probably don't just list some options, have everyone vote, and then go with the majority choice. You discuss why everyone has the preferences they do, listen to their reasons, and do your best to address competing priorities and concerns. You seek consensus through discussion and compromise, and recognize that while everyone has different preferences, you're all interested in and sympathetic to each other's desires. That's a kind of anarchist decision making.

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        I realise that I'm using nationalist in a context that you're probably unfamiliar with.

        When I say Welsh nationalism I'm using this definition - "advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people."

        As opposed to the definition you're likely more familiar with -"identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations."

        Now for how I Square these two otherwise inconsistent political goals:

        It is a complicated process and I don't doubt that the Welsh nationalist movement may present some hurdles in the long run to the dissolution of state hierarchy. But the way I see it is like this:

        UK parliament controls the entire UK, there's the senedd in Wales and the Scottish parliament but ultimately they only have the power to make minor adjustments to laws (such as change the speed limit slightly).

        As such, any revolution that occurs in Wales has to contend not just with the local bourgeois but also from the bourgeois of the United Kingdom as a whole.

        Now two possible tactics exist in this situation:

        • revolution across the whole UK at once.

        Or

        • Wales separates from the UK and then undergoes revolution.

        Of the two of those, I believe the latter outcome is more likely to succeed.

        Sorry for the huge wall of text.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        No it doesn't. Just read what she wrote.

        If this were a situation to argue what you would have to do is to:

        Welsh nationalism as a short-term project, because the structure of the UK gives ultimate control to the houses of parliament (a largely unelected seat of power), if any form of communism, let alone anarchist communism, is to be successfully built in Wales we must first be free from direct interference by our neighbours.

        That a unified UK has more chance at reaching what she wants, than if there were a Welsh nationalist movement.

        I also would argue that your understanding of anarchist is not thorough enough.