Either you ridin' or we pass you, flyin' by sayin' fuck you

    • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      read lenin.

      "Unity is a great thing and a great slogan. But what the workers’ cause needs is the unity of Marxists, not unity between Marxists, and opponents and distorters of Marxism.".

      Or like, what Lenin did you have in mind

        • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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          9 months ago

          Just so I understand correctly, Lenin is saying that communist parties need to join together to overthrow capitalism. Is that how you read it?

          Can you help me understand why you think that extends to anarchists?

            • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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              9 months ago

              And I agree with Lenin.

              I don't understand temporary alliances for specific goals to be the same as "left unity".

              That implies a unity of purpose and goal that doesn't exist.

              I don't want the future Anarchists want, and they don't want mine.

                • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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                  9 months ago

                  ARE YOU CURRENTLY IN A PLACE IN WHICH YOU ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THE BOURGEOIS INTERESTS? NO? THEN READ LENIN AGAIN YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

                  Is it a thing in Hexbear to just like, be meaner when you can't get your point across?

                  Maybe having downvotes would make y'all more pleasant to interact with.

                    • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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                      9 months ago

                      We're both clear that Lenin says to work with people.

                      I'm trying to communicate that "left unity" implies a unity of movement beyond temporary alliance.

                      If we're agreed that lenin is recommending temporary alliances, then it feels like we should be agreed that "left unity" (a permanent unity of purpose) isn't really a thing.

                      Is there anything I've missed in this summation?

                  • CommieGabredabok [he/him, comrade/them]
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    second paragraph

                    To carry on a war for the overthrow of the international bourgeoisie [...] and to renounce in advance any change of tack, [...], or any conciliation or compromise with possible allies (even if they are temporary, unstable, vacillating or conditional allies)—is that not ridiculous in the extreme?

                    The Black Panther Party in America, for example, had many anarchist comrades within it, a "rainbow coalition," and so on... For COINTELPRO, however, it is known that Feds have used ultra-left newspapers and anti-AES-focused stories in anarchist papers for psy-ops. Feds mainly targeted the leaders and most outspoken members of the Black Panthers (mostly ML or ML oriented), and many major past members that remain alive are anarchists. Take that as you will.

                    also, I have an account on both Lemmygrad and Hexbear. All this infighting is making me angery