cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/839937

I understand it, with the settler colonialism, and ethnic cleansing of Israel, especially with its ghettoization of Gaza region, that we must critically support Hamas and perhaps the Palestinian Authority in its struggle...

But I feel, through closer analysis, that the authorities of both Gaza and the West Bank are a bit shady af...

I feel this way, considering this video on Hamas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kttN_6qVQg8

(It doesn't mention much though about how Israel helped spawn Hamas, unlike the Washington Post, the Intercept, and the WSJ)

Specifically on the claims that 'two-thirds (of Palestinians) do not fear a recurrence of the Nakba" and that--

"Perception of corruption in PA institutions stands at 84%.

When asked about institutions controlled by Hamas in the Gaza Strip, 73% indicated that there is corruption in these institutions. Three months ago, 82% said there is corruption in PA institutions and 71% said there is corruption in public institutions controlled by Hamas.

40% of West Bankers think people in the West Bank can criticize the PA without fear while 55% think they cannot. In the Gaza Strip, 40% think people in the Strip can criticize Hamas’ authorities without fear and 59% think they cannot.

Specifically from this source: https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20full%20text%20June%202023.pdf

That being said, the founder of it is a wealthy Palestinian liberal, so I believe some rebuttals can be made against some of these claims......

Go check this article for more: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-palestinian-research-center-comes-under-threat-in-a-government-crackdown

  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexagon
    hexbear
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    7 months ago

    Oh ok... well.. I was wondering if the Palestinians were in good hands with their government to conduct their struggle against the Zionist entity, at least with Hamas...

    Let me remind you again that the same Ukraine, who are now having to conscript people to the slaughter instead of signing the Minsk agreements and are trying to imitate Israel, were the one of the countries that was rated as one of the most corrupt, so I think it's a good yardstick to check that Palestine's rhythm and strategy of national liberation will not be tarnished by infighting and distrust within their communities...

    • @cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      Expecting perfection from those who fight for national liberation is not productive. Infighting and distrust is stoked by and benefits only the occupier.

      As Marxists we must learn to recognize primary and secondary contradictions. Whatever political or ideological disagreements exist between those who are genuinely fighting for liberation can and should be set aside until the common enemy has been defeated. Self-criticism should continue to be vigorously exercised but directed at faulty strategies and behavior which sabotages or hampers the struggle for liberation.

      "Corruption" is an accusation frequently leveled at enemies of imperialism and settler colonialism, and the more militant and successful the resistance the more these accusations will pile up. It is a form of victim blaming, to claim that the plight of Palestinians is due to the corruption of those who lead them and defend them. You don't see the same kinds of accusations made toward the occupier or their puppets although this very poll that is cited shows clearly that the PA is more unpopular than Hamas.

      On a personal note i want to make it clear that i, like most of us here, have significant disagreements with the ideology of Hamas. But not only is it not my place to tell Palestinians who they should or shouldn't be choosing as their defenders, it would in fact be nothing less than a stab in the back to the Palestinian cause to allow my personal disagreements with their views to be used to undermine the legitimacy of their struggle.

      Whether we like Hamas or not it is a fact that no other resistance group in the entire history of the occupation has EVER pulled off what they have just done. No one has ever taken the fight to the occupier on territory where they thought themselves safe and managed to inflict such humiliation on them. That needs to be respected regardless of their other flaws. Victories like this unite people, while talking of distrust and corruption when the struggle is in such a crucial phase lays the groundwork for rifts and defeat.

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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        hexbear
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        7 months ago

        On a personal note i want to make it clear that i, like most of us here, have significant disagreements with the ideology of Hamas. But not only is it not my place to tell Palestinians who they should or shouldn't be choosing as their defenders, it would in fact be nothing less than a stab in the back to the Palestinian cause to allow my personal disagreements with their views to be used to undermine the legitimacy of their struggle.

        Whether we like Hamas or not it is a fact that no other resistance group in the entire history of the occupation has EVER pulled off what they have just done. No one has ever taken the fight to the occupier on territory where they thought themselves safe and managed to inflict such humiliation on them. That needs to be respected regardless of their other flaws. Victories like this unite people, while talking of distrust and corruption when the struggle is in such a crucial phase lays the groundwork for rifts and defeat.

        So, I suppose democratic centralism, until the national liberation part is done... and I guess it's counterproductive to talk about this, during a crucial time, especially when corruption is used like a political weapon, as Brazil's Sergio Moro and his did to Lula and the Partido Trabalhadores...

        Until then, good luck to Palestine...