cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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  • Helmic [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Mastodon is the kind of place I referred to in my previous comment.

    Not really sure how that's particularly waned, relative to anything else. Anarchist instances can be pretty large, and Mastodon (and the other twitter-like federated projects) as a whole is a much larger thing than Lemmy at present. That is where you'll find actual orgs with their "official" accounts after Twitter started banning them.

    I don't know who you're talking about but Hexbear is more active today than it has ever been.

    ML's on Hexbear are active, yes. I don't really see other anarchists very often, we're more often referred to than actually present. I don't really think I see much other htan ML's represented in general, which is absolutely a decline from when the website started and certainly from when the subreddit was still not banned.

    It used to have a bigger problem with anti-trot sectarianism, far more than anarchism.

    The trot in question got orriginally targetted in part due to their association with anarchists, which again the phrase "anarchist cabal" will always be funny. But part of why there was resistance to that sectarianism was becuase there were anarchists present to push back on it, which over time a lot of us have burned out on the community. And so like 90% of the time it seems like posts are mostly complaining about anarchists, which I imagine is probably exhausting for whatever anarchists remain.

    Which ones?

    GenZanarchism was probably one of hte more notable ones that got cheered on, though people have been trying to fuck with r/anarchism for a while which had that space paranoid as shit. I remember on the Discord we were looking over some screenshots over some drama about needing to disassociate with a server of Reddit subredit moderators where someone told someone else to kill thesmelves, and part of those screenshots was them with a channel dedicated to fucking with anarchist subreddits.

    You can just go to the dunk thread for this thread and see the upvoted replies, like those just plain stating they don't really advocate for left unity either.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      people have been trying to fuck with r/anarchism for a while which had that space paranoid as shit.

      Literally run by feds. Anyone fucking with that sub is wasting their time it will never fall out of their hands.

      • Helmic [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        What does that even mean? It runs on elected mods, with a separate subreddit that posts notable mod actions for transparency. Do you think there's any non-fed anarchist subreddit, or are you just fedjacketing as a bit or because their opnions annoy you? Antiwork actually had Laurelai Bailey, an actual known snitch, we actually do know that there was fed shit going on there - I have never heard an actual serious accusation about r/anarchism of all places.

        LIke unless your'e going to hand me actual evidence that morrigan or someone is actually a cop, this is the kind of thing that I'm talking about. That fedjacketing shit is toxic, it gets people paranoid, it's a traumatic thing to go through, so the general expectation is that you don't ever call someone a cop or a fed without actual evidence to back that up.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          My bad it's completeanarchy I had in mind, anarchism is safe and in fact it's the only anarchist subreddit that has good relations with the socialist subreddits.

          I'm not giving evidence you'll just have to take my word for it.

          Antiwork actually had Laurelai Bailey, an actual known snitch, we actually do know that there was fed shit going on there

          I was active during the antiwork events and we had accounts in the modteam trying to turn it around but we were fucked as soon as the admins stepped in and brought on liberal powermods. Things potentially could have gone differently if that sub hadn't spent the last 12 months prior purging "tankies", we tried to stop the wrecker pressures that were occurring in threads but were unable to muster enough people because all the purging had made it considerably harder to get people to help rescue a space they saw as one that had purged them previously. It wasn't really just "fed shit" though it was an op that involved some sort of financier cabal, we had direct evidence of canadian bankers running the spinoffs at the time but it'd take some time to dig up, the two that were caught faded into the woodwork when called on it but you can bet the power was still in their group. Whole thing was a disaster. A digital colour-revolution in action.

          • Helmic [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            completeanarchy's def assholes, yes, though again I refrain from calling anything or anyone a fed because that's historically been used extremely abusively in leftist spaces. antiwork's more well known as having been fucked with, as generally when actual fed shit happens on reddit it invovles reddit admins getting directly involved.

            • Juice [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              Reddit is a fed site, completely captured in every way that matters, I honestly can't believe people still use it and expect good faith