One of these fans was Amber Rose, a filmmaker and true-crime buff [...]. “There are some podcasts where the hosts are all men, and they make a lot of jokes at the expense of women and fans and queer and trans people who have gone through horrible things,” she says.

In 2017, Rose says, she met Ben Kissel in Los Angeles at the El Rey Theater, where he was judging a Halloween costume contest. She had dressed as Jeffrey Dahmer (a costume choice she now regrets)

The cognitive dissonance of racist White women is insane.