I just had a thought like "What if some UFO aduction experiences people claim to have are actually people being kidnapped by the CIA" thinking-about-it

The kind of stories I'm thinking about often go like: "I was driving on an empty road in the middle of nowhere. I saw a bright light," and then either "I remember nothing but had lost time" or "I remember being experimented on by aliens and then put back in my car."

My tinfoil hat side is thinking like, these stories started happening around the time the US admitted to experimenting with abuse, torture and psychoactive drugs in Project MK-Ultra. Alien abduction stories were the most prevalent during this time. (CW: Just a heads up. If you want to read the rest of this post or anything else about MK-Ultra, be warned that it's pretty horrible, and involves some of the most disgusting torture I have ever read about. Death to America.)

Of the surviving documents released to the public about MK-Ultra, the CIA admits to: "kidnapping people it deemed "expendable" to undertake various types of torture and human experimentation on them. The prisoners were interrogated while being administered psychoactive drugs, electroshocked and subjected to extremes of temperature, sensory isolation and the like to develop a better understanding of how to destroy and to control human minds."

Part of me wonders how many of these alien abduction stories are just people being kidnapped, drugged with powerful hallucinogens, experimented on and then released with the suggestion conditioned into their mind that it was aliens.

The most famous alien abduction story is that of Barney and Betty Hill, an interracial couple that were both civil rights leaders, definitely people that the CIA would want to fuck with, especially during rising tensions with the Soviet Union, the US government was suspicious of minorities and anyone interested in their rights.

  • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    i read /u/mechwarrior2's link, if true it is quite interesting that they were communists who had a bunch of air force friends and lived real close to a nuclear base. However Betty also seems like a very unreliable narrator.

    e: and contrary to the substack author's opinions, Martin Cannon seems like a rather excitable fellow, and I'm not sure I trust the "Martin Cannon listened to a tape and said it said she was a communist" or really anything that comes from him. I read his paper called The Controllers (later developed into a book from which the substack author took this tidbit), but Cannon seems to be writing further than the facts allow. 1. He gives a lot of credence to some guy who says he's a deadly Navy SEAL with the usual accompanying deadly weapon hands 2. At great length he entertains the possibility of US government implanting electrodes in peoples' brains, remotely activated in order to affect their behavior. Okay sure, we've got pacemakers, there's some prior published research with brain stimulation on humans, and that would definitely be useful militarily. That's a viable MKULTRA experiment area, they'd try it. But he goes on to say

    [Robert] Naeslund, a Swedish citizen, tells a similar story. Moreover, his claims were backed by special evidence: X-rays revealed an implant in his brain. Naeslund actually went to the extreme of having his implant tested by electronic technicians employed by Hewlett-Packard. A Greek surgeon performed the necessary trepanation to remove the device.

    You're telling me that this guy had a mysterious implant removed from his head by a surgeon and the most I can find is a photo of a dark blob on an X-ray? You're telling me that brain implants are common in "abductees" and there's no evidence of these physical artifacts? Especially because the usual paranormal explanation for these experiences is alien abduction, an "alien" artifact would be a big fucking deal and they'd publicize it. Props to him for putting forth a theory that can be supported or killed by evidence, I guess.