never using a word because of a superstition* is not at all similar to a norm about not tracking dirt into a place, or a i don't even know what you're talking about hats, people wear hats in church all the fucking time.
stop imposing your athiesm on them
i don't think a "version of bloody mary" is a deity.
it's asking for a small courtesy out of respect for their beliefs
you'll note i have not used the specific word, despite my position, but she said she doesn't even believe in the thing. my understanding ore broadly of that sort of "spirits" superstition around the world is that the vast majority of people from cultures that have them don't actually believe in them, so it's incredibly weird to me that neurotypicals want this norm of treating with respect superstitions that aren't even believed in by their culture of origin.
no hats in church is a rule at least where I am from and is a very old tradition. No shoes in a mosque is not just about mud it's primarily about respect which is why churches ask you to take your hat off because you are supposed to treat the building with the respect you would someone's home.
It's just a courtesy signifying respect across cultures to not violate small traditions like this. The rule itself is not important it is the following that signifies that you care about their feelings and cultural values because you care about their culture. Not following the rule signifies deliberate disrespect.
Think it's stupid all you want but there are social conventions for good and important reasons and they ease tensions across cultures. The conventions are a form of communication and if you don't follow the convention people are going to assume you mean the same thing as the people who don't follow the convention as a mark of deliberate disrespect.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can understand why they value this rule they have told you it is important to them
It doesn't matter whether or not you can understand why they value this rule they have told you it is important to them
that's all fine and dandy but again, "never use that (non-slur) word for a thing none of us actually believe in" is way more of an imposition on the rest of us than participating in norms at a specific place and time.
Where did I say none of us actually believe in it? Plenty of people do, especially more traditional folks. When you say that word to someone you're putting SERIOUS bad medicine on them and they're entirely within their rights to be offended. If you go around with this attitude you'll find it hard to make friends with people from other cultures.
never using a word because of a superstition* is not at all similar to a norm about not tracking dirt into a place, or a i don't even know what you're talking about hats, people wear hats in church all the fucking time.
i don't think a "version of bloody mary" is a deity.
you'll note i have not used the specific word, despite my position, but she said she doesn't even believe in the thing. my understanding ore broadly of that sort of "spirits" superstition around the world is that the vast majority of people from cultures that have them don't actually believe in them, so it's incredibly weird to me that neurotypicals want this norm of treating with respect superstitions that aren't even believed in by their culture of origin.
no hats in church is a rule at least where I am from and is a very old tradition. No shoes in a mosque is not just about mud it's primarily about respect which is why churches ask you to take your hat off because you are supposed to treat the building with the respect you would someone's home.
It's just a courtesy signifying respect across cultures to not violate small traditions like this. The rule itself is not important it is the following that signifies that you care about their feelings and cultural values because you care about their culture. Not following the rule signifies deliberate disrespect.
Think it's stupid all you want but there are social conventions for good and important reasons and they ease tensions across cultures. The conventions are a form of communication and if you don't follow the convention people are going to assume you mean the same thing as the people who don't follow the convention as a mark of deliberate disrespect.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can understand why they value this rule they have told you it is important to them
that's all fine and dandy but again, "never use that (non-slur) word for a thing none of us actually believe in" is way more of an imposition on the rest of us than participating in norms at a specific place and time.
Where did I say none of us actually believe in it? Plenty of people do, especially more traditional folks. When you say that word to someone you're putting SERIOUS bad medicine on them and they're entirely within their rights to be offended. If you go around with this attitude you'll find it hard to make friends with people from other cultures.