• GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          7 months ago

          I don't see how hookups rebel against this. They might not be doing the work but that leaves the expectations there

            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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              7 months ago

              Yeah, but there's a difference between having a strike and just being unemployed

                • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                  7 months ago

                  being on strike is specifically refusing to do a job until the other party corrects conditions, being unemployed is just not doing any job with no bargaining power over the other party. Being on strike has demands, being unemployed just means you don't have a formal relationship with an employer. In the same way, if women are trying to avoid their undo amount of labor through hooking up, they're just deferring it to later, not changing it.

                  • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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                    7 months ago

                    How is it deferred until later if they choose not to get in any serious relationship? Also only getting in serious relationships later mean over your life you are doing significantly less work.

                    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                      7 months ago

                      If they were never going to be in a serious relationship then they aren't avoiding the problems of a relationship through hookup culture. They wouldn't be doing that anyway. I think there's also always been a certain amount of the population that hooks up because they don't want a relationship but do want sex. That's not the same as hookup culture because that's referring to the pervasiveness of this style of living, and (I would argue) the use of apps and social media to being in more anonymous partners.

                      I also don't know to what extent people don't get into serious relationships due to hook up culture. It's probably on a case by case basis, there may be some general trends, but based on what I've seen people do it between relationships. How long this means very much depends on the person and circumstances, and it probably does space out relationships longer, but it doesn't necessarily lead to less work in a lifetime. The thing which would do that is setting boundaries in the relationship and not dating men who don't put in their fair share.

                      • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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                        7 months ago

                        I see a lot of people doing hookups when they're in a busy point of their lives and then settle down when they can afford to do a bunch of free labor

                        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                          7 months ago

                          so if they didn't hook up they wouldn't be doing labor anyway, they just wouldn't be having sex.

                            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                              7 months ago

                              yes, and as a result they aren't avoiding the labor which you suggest wouldn't be occurring anyway because they don't have time for a relationship. Even if you were right it's an unsatisfactory analysis of hook up culture because men also take part in, as well as other genders. If your response is just that they enjoy sex, then I don't see how that reason doesn't apply just as strongly to the women.

                              • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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                                7 months ago

                                yes, and as a result they aren't avoiding the labor which you suggest wouldn't be occurring anyway because they don't have time for a relationship.

                                They dont have time for a relationship while pursuing their own goals. They could get in a relationship and be economically dependent on a man.

                                • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                                  7 months ago

                                  If they couldn't take part in hook up culture, would they be doing that?

                                  • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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                                    7 months ago

                                    I mean it does go against the narrative of you have to find a man and settle down with him of you want to not be a spinster or whatever.