• 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    full NATO backing didn't make a lick of difference

    We're seeing what "full NATO backing" really means: we'll sell you weapons, but we're not dying for you or risking a wider war. That's a lot less valuable than what NATO was sold as.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      To be fair, Ukraine is technically not part of NATO, but I really can't imagine that the level of support would be significantly different if an actual NATO member was under attack.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        I imagine actual NATO members are wondering the same thing, which doesn't bode well for NATO.

        • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml
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          7 months ago

          They'll start demanding more money from the member states and trying to increase membership. They're already putting pressure on the Irish government to drop our "neutrality".

            • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              Bonkers as in you expected more people to oppose it, or that you thought more people would support it?

              • FightingGirlfriend@lemmygrad.ml
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                7 months ago

                I expected more to oppose it. But I mean, my expectations for people having even the most basic political acumen gets lower and lower every day.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          Indeed, and the fact that US is basically the only member of NATO with a serious military must be increasingly concerning for Europe now. If US gets bored of Europe and decides to pivot to China or the Middle East, then European NATO members are going to be in a very difficult position.

      • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        Where do I go in 15 years when my kids are drafted to fight for the noble polish invasion of Kaliningrad?