• Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      That answers absolutely nothing. Do you think Capitalists designed hardware, or Engineers?

      • Jknaraa@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        Do you think Capitalists designed hardware, or Engineers?

        I'm just gonna leave this quote as is, so you can think about it.

        • Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          I have. Engineers, ie workers, designed the hardware. It was not the Capitalists that owned the companies doing the design.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          Are you saying capitalists and engineers are one in the same? Maybe sometimes, but it's not capital that makes things, it's labor.

      • drndramrndra@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        Well you solved that conundrum rightly. Now let's go linch those dirty Apple and John Deere engineers. Since they've designed those machines, they must be the only responsible parties for designing them with their extreme anti-consumer and anti-repair policies. They must get commissions on every licensed repair or something, it's definitely got nothing to do with capitalists putting restrictions on the design team in order to increase profits, nope...

        • Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          You're completely off on what I'm getting at. The idea of "Capitalist" hardware, as though the Capitalist did the labor, is wrong. Engineers are paid for their labor power, they don't typically get royalties or anything of the sort, just like any other laborer.

          Someone saying that FOSS software relies on Capitalist hardware is putting the Capitalist over the Engineer, as though the Capitalist created the hardware, and not the labor of the miners, assemblers, designers, engineers, and so forth, regardless of who owns the Capital the labor is done by the Workers. FOSS is agnostic to whoever owned the Means of Proruction of the hardware using or producing it.