That's why I say "ok-ish". Things have changed since you were last here. In about 2 weeks (Jan 27), the light rail route will go from Metrocenter (31st Ave & Mountain View Rd.) to East Mesa (Gilbert Rd. & Main St.)
So it is a bit easier but still sucks if you have to go anywhere west of 67th Ave (have to use buses past Metrocenter station) or east of Gilbert Rd (like ASU East campus). Like you said, the problem is the sprawl. And of course, most of the white, NIMBY, neighborhoods where there are places like the new stadium that you want to get to are outside of the public transit routes.
yeah honestly I just have a kneejerk negative reaction to phoenix because as someone from the polar tundras of the upper midwest I can't fathom living in a place that's hotter than comfortable (to me anyhow) like 7 months out of the year and has no water. And I've had family move there even, I just don't see the appeal at all, even as brutal as our winters can be up here. but the sprawl also didn't help my opinion lol
I'm glad the transit is still expanding tho. That southern extension looks significant!
That's why I say "ok-ish". Things have changed since you were last here. In about 2 weeks (Jan 27), the light rail route will go from Metrocenter (31st Ave & Mountain View Rd.) to East Mesa (Gilbert Rd. & Main St.)
So it is a bit easier but still sucks if you have to go anywhere west of 67th Ave (have to use buses past Metrocenter station) or east of Gilbert Rd (like ASU East campus). Like you said, the problem is the sprawl. And of course, most of the white, NIMBY, neighborhoods where there are places like the new stadium that you want to get to are outside of the public transit routes.
yeah honestly I just have a kneejerk negative reaction to phoenix because as someone from the polar tundras of the upper midwest I can't fathom living in a place that's hotter than comfortable (to me anyhow) like 7 months out of the year and has no water. And I've had family move there even, I just don't see the appeal at all, even as brutal as our winters can be up here. but the sprawl also didn't help my opinion lol
I'm glad the transit is still expanding tho. That southern extension looks significant!