Removed from /c/worldnews as 'misinfo' despite coming from a credible source that is clear about the evidence backing up its reporting. Posting here instead.
EDIT: Beware the comments in this thread, which are attempting every possible derail. Here's what you are in for if you read the comments:
❌Reading the article
❌ Understanding the specific claims in the article
✅ Misrepresenting the article
✅ Falsely claiming there's no evidence in the article
✅ Moving the goalposts after realizing there actually is evidence in the article
✅ Derailing with unrelated topics
✅ Not engaging with the evidence but saying "no one cares"
✅ Attacking NYT's reputation by reference to unrelated articles
✅ Dogpiling with downvotes without responding to comments making legitimate points
✅ Mods inconsistently applying their own rules to remove comments they disagree with
This thread really has it all! If you also want to help derail, please be creative and add something different than the things listed above. I will be awarding originality points.
ok, whatever debatebro
fuck it, ill add this:
none of the so called propaganda made by Russia is very convincing. Who is it for? Republicans? They will vote Trump regardless. Democrats? They won't like for anti-establishment shit.
Is it to convince 'independents' to vote Trump? I think Democrats are doing that much better than Russia ever could.
what im saying is, if it is propaganda it is super mid. what should west do? censorship? go ahead. block those domains.
edit 2: i cant even find the site on google btw, so clearly there is some censorship from the private sector.
Okay, the next step in the playbook is "no one cares". I don't know, I think online disinformation has emerged as one of the major international issues characteristic of our time and will go down in the history books. So I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that no one cares.
I'm sorry that calling you out on your 💩 means I'm a debate bro. But the flip side of the same coin is that you're the one spewing the 💩💩💩.
If you were worried about disinformation you wouldn't be reading the new york times.
May I have a poop emoji please?
maybe US should solve domestic disinformation before going international, plenty of right wing (and liberal) newspapers reporting complete propaganda. also, maybe implement a GFW if you are that concerned about Russian disinfo.