https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-beginner-teaching-decks-1-green/

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-beginner-teaching-decks-2-red/

^^ the two decks I used, I played green and the ai was red. Still getting the hang of this game but with over like 50k cards in the library and endless combos it's so deep. The AI is quite smart on Forge too. I've never played MTG in my life so this is all new to me.

  • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    49k of them aren't good enough for competitive play, and of the 1k that are there's enough give and take to keep lots of strategies viable.

    But at the higher levels of competition you are dealing with a card pool of maybe 100 unique cards played across many decks. Much easier to manage!

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      So basically Gwent but with waaay more forgotten cards

      • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        There's definitely a lot of trash cards, but there's way more than 1k cards that regularly see play at tables. There's a ton of different deck archetypes and so some cards are better in certain decks than others. I think there might only be 1k cards at the very top level of competitive play, but those decks are worth thousands of dollars and are just not realistic for most players. It's kind of a completely different game once you get to that level.

          • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            The community is generally cool with people having some proxies in their deck (10-15) but unless everyone in the pod is playing with all proxies, having an entire deck full of proxies is kinda frowned on (I would not be comfortable showing up with an all proxy deck to a non-proxy game).

            There are proxy events and formats and those are fun. There's a lot of two turn wins and infinite combos in those, but playing with all high power cards is great.

              • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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                7 months ago

                It's great! Sometimes it can result in some really annoying and frustrating games. There are some cards that are just broken and can result in some games that are really toxic for other players, but that isn't that often, and really only happens if you're playing with someone who is kind of an asshole anyway.

      • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        Yeah I might be off by a zero here. I'm just thinking if a player comes to me, says they want to play serious Modern tournaments, and wants to know what Red and Blue cards they should know, off the top of my head:

        Counterspell

        Murktide Regent

        Spell Pierce

        Force of Negation

        Preordain

        Subtlety

        Ragavan

        Lightning Bolt

        Dragon's Rage Channeler

        Uhh... Flame Of Anor?

        That's 10 cards. There's others, but if you want a competitive Modern deck in Blue/Red the Murktide deck isn't far off from this list + lands.

        • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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          7 months ago

          Maybe the truth is somewhere in between (radical mtg centrism). There's tons of different decks on moxfield using tons of different cards, but the card pool does shrink the higher up you go, depending on the format.