• huf [he/him]
    hexbear
    16
    2 months ago

    yes, i know that's the accepted wisdom but i'm not seeing it. and if that were a real fear, then europe has just played itself, because russia is only going to be more likely to attack now that europe has shown itself to be a paper tiger... maybe it would've been better to say an absolute no to the idea of ukraine joining nato in 2008 or so. maybe there would still be a ukraine.

      • huf [he/him]
        hexbear
        16
        2 months ago

        not being hostile to them first would've helped...

        • @tiredturtle@lemmy.ml
          hexbear
          2
          2 months ago

          Which attack was that? Couldn't pinpoint by searching. Anyway, instead of hypothetical dwelling, time machines are not yet functional so the solutions need to be in the now and the future.

          • huf [he/him]
            hexbear
            14
            2 months ago

            the EU leadership doesnt seem to be looking for that kind of solution either, they're just doubling down on what doesnt seem to be working

        • @tiredturtle@lemmy.ml
          hexbear
          1
          2 months ago

          Or doing nothing lead to the current point. Oh well, it's up to some future generations to look with hindsight

          • TheBroodian [none/use name]
            hexbear
            11
            2 months ago

            Literally looking at any fucking moment in the last 100 years would demonstrate that every intervention on the part of the West led exactly to this current moment

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            5
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            We toppled their entire government and replaced them with nazis, as is our method. Then we gave the nazis training and weapons for eight full years while they massacred people in eastern Ukraine. We forced a military response from the next door neighbor because that's what we wanted to do.