If you google this question, “where does fentanyl come from?” You get a results page filled with “China” and “Mexico”. I have a suspicion that the fentanyl “pouring over our southern border” narrative is mostly BS and that it’s coming from inside the house, but can anybody point me towards the facts? Thank you

  • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Not everything is a conspiracy. China has every reason to want it's primary adversary's populace addicted and dying of overdoses.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      6 months ago

      Dude, the CPC literally offered to directly assist the USA in stopping the fentanyl trade, but the imperialists couldn't play nice long enough to get anything done before pissing them off.

      • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        They can say that, but why would they want to actually stop it? It is good for them and bad for the empire, I'm surprised people aren't cheering it on.

          • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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            6 months ago

            It’s the same take as any other intelligence agency or military strategist would have. I don’t believe the Chinese intelligence is trafficking drugs like the CIA. In fact, western media have reported that China’s rich businessmen have been feeling threatened by China’s crackdown on businesses and wealth, so they work with cartels to move their money around to evade Chinese laws.

            I just think China is in no rush to crack down on drug manufacturers as long as the bulk of it isn’t affecting chinese society. But they will come after you if your wealth empowers China’s enemies.

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Not everything is a conspiracy

      China is conspiring to get the USA’s population addicted to drugs

      You’re aware that you’re the one pushing a conspiracy theory over the simpler explanation of the media operating along its normal and well known biases?

    • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]
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      6 months ago

      “Da joos are doing white genocide and I support that/j”

      Idk, China seems pretty open to being nice to ideological enemies, mostly hurting the US through the obvious consequences of the empire’s own actions.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      I don’t think they care, which is different from actively wanting Americans to overdose on the streets. It provides them with a ton of propaganda (internally and abroad), and it demoralizes the enemy. They’ve offered to cooperate to combat the drugs, but the US either refuses or demands that China jump through a bunch of hoops while the US does nothing (like how they demand Mexico combat cartels, reduce poverty and migration, while also taking in other migrants and producing food for the US, while the US just needs to shoot people at the border), or they simply demonize the Chinese instead of working together. Even the DEA has praised China

      "It was all coming through the mail, aircraft, not in large quantities because it was so pure the fentanyl that they were making over in China ... but once they classified entire analogs of fentanyl, it made a huge difference," said Matt Donahue, the DEA deputy chief of operations who oversees the agency's work abroad.

      While stricter regulation has not wiped out the fentanyl-related industry in China, it has made it more difficult for illicit vendors to operate.

      If your neighbor is crazy, it’s best to just leave him alone than try to fix the problem on your own or mend relations with him.

      https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/916890880/we-are-shipping-to-the-u-s-china-s-fentanyl-sellers-find-new-routes-to-drug-user

      Pretty much all western media report that it’s companies that are skirting chinese laws and inspections rather than the laws and inspections being lax - and of course local corruption. The only people who believe that the government and party are actively trafficking drugs as part of their agenda are cranks