anyways, isn’t it amazing that we’ve somehow divined the economic and social structure that according to the last few centuries of research happens to perfectly embody all of humanity’s innate characteristics and primal instincts and incentive structures and behavior patterns clueless

  • sgtlion [any]
    ·
    5 months ago

    This objection always confused me. If you're going to random ass apply wolf sociology to humans on the basis of nothing, then captive ones are probably a better approximation. So it makes sense in that lens.

    The real and only flaw of applying that study to humans is that we are not in fact wolves (citation needed).

    • lil_tank [any, he/him]
      ·
      5 months ago

      If you're going to random ass apply wolf sociology to humans on the basis of nothing, then captive ones are probably a better approximation.

      No

        • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
          ·
          4 months ago

          Yeah that’s arguably the actually valuable finding from this study, isn’t it? In a natural state, cooperative social mammals, whether they are wolves or human beings, will behave in an egalitarian manner and not tolerate abusive psychopathic “alphas”. But in captivity, whether that is wolves in a zoo or humans forced into wage-slavery under capitalism, this kind of psychopathic behaviour emerges and forms a dominant part of the social structure. We can observe wolves in their natural state and therefore question the immediate conclusions of this study regarding wolves. But the study might actually suggest a useful finding that could be applied to a human society help in a captive state by capitalism and the various enforcement layers of bosses, corporate control, the police, and so on.