I'm not trying to gatekeep the franchise and my political biases are obvious with my screen name, but I just find it confusing that a conservative wouldn't automatically be pissed off from a franchise that has had liberal/left biases baked into it from the beginning. I know a lot of them don't like "NuTrek" so I won't even get into those. DS9, which was the "darker" and more morally ambiguous show, had these biases still baked into it, what with a pro union episode that positively quoted the Communist Manifesto. Or Past Tense or a host of other episodes I could list. Enterprise's last two parter was an anti xenophobia, and basically pro "globalism" episode and etc etc. The franchise has always been a left soapbox of sorts so it just kinda confuses me that there's apparently a legion of conservative, right wing fans.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    21 days ago

    It's baffling to me too, but considering how much the post-DS9 "NuTrek" showrunners like to trot out Section 31 and give them more power and reach and even respectability among the protagonists each time they seem to show up (such as in Picard where for some reason Worf and Jurati were associated with them and they apparently "had all the best toys" in a way that sounded quirky and cool rather than an unaccountably self interested bunch of murderous criminals as seen in DS9), there's a fair amount of overlap it seems between the "black ops special forces shadowy adults in the room that make the hard decisions and get shit done" power fantasies of typical right wing entertainment and whatever Kurtzman keeps trying to push on the Trek franchise.

    That's even more baffling because the average self-described conservative Trek fan seems to hate "NuTrek" anyway, even the stuff that I myself enjoy like Lower Decks, The Orville (yes I count that as Trek, it earned it), Prodigy, and Strange New Worlds.

    The final 20 minutes or so of this video summarize how I feel about the Discovery/Picard's preoccupation with edgy grimdark gimmicks that seem to be trying to appeal to a crowd that nonetheless can't see past the "politicalness/wokeness" of having too many nonwhite nonmale characters and the like.

    https://youtu.be/MdLHKdn0JTY?t=12063