https://fxtwitter.com/1HoodPower/status/1831141799600984412

  • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Sorry, but I'm not believing a word the pigs say. Cross-checking a possible unidentified minor that you've had for a few days in jail, with the database of missing people, seems like the most stupidly obvious thing you can do, and if they didn't do it, that's negligent as shit.

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      American cops are terrible at the alleged parts of their jobs that involve actually helping people. The only parts they are "good" at are using violence to protect private property, acting like a gang, and being racist.

      This is why key demands when defunding cops is to keep these alleged functions but make them civilian jobs by social services professionals. Having a way to identify and care for children in tough situations is a good thing to do. Cops are possibly the worst people to give that responsibility to.

    • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      There are things to criticize here, but it’s a bad example to push when there are a million other much clearer miscarriages of justice out there.

      As for believing the story: we should absolutely be skeptical, but "if the facts hurt my position I don't believe them" is an unfalsifiable stance.

      • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        It's not "if the facts hurt my position I don't believe them", it's about "cops have a record of bullshitting to try and save their asses to the point of bodycams becoming a necessity to save the public from their constant lying"

        • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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          2 months ago

          That plays well for other leftists, but not for people who aren't there yet. It's much easier to get people on board with "we should be skeptical and check the cops' story" than it is to get them to wholesale reject anything the police say. And if the latter is your position, you can get proven wrong.

          • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            I'm not talking in hexbear to make optics and to make leftists look good, I'm talking my mind because I feel like this is a safe space to do so. Anyway, optics aren't everything, being on the right side of things is important. For example, saying that there's no ongoing genocide in China (look at my last post) is important regardless of it meaning alienating people right now, because in 10 years time it will be obvious to everyone, and then when people are like "oh my god how could we be so dumb to believe it", you can explain why analysis of material conditions from a leftist perspective gives better results historically. An actual example of this, would be the leftists opposing the invasion of Iraq, as seen on a 2005 debate between Michael Parenti and Christopher Kitchens in which Parenti rightly predicts that in 5-10 years time, the situation in Iraq won't be better.

          • Barx [none/use name]
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            2 months ago

            That is not my experience. It is much easier to convince people that cops are just organized crime for capital than to achieve anything worthwhile by pretending they deserve the benefit of the doubt.