• Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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    25 days ago

    Why do you support a system that repeatedly makes you choose between mega hitler and giga hitler? Surely you recognize that such a system is evil and participation is an endorsement of it.

    • halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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      25 days ago

      That's a very difficult concept for them to understand. The mental gymnastics I've seen them use to excuse or defend genocide has been wild.

      By just saying, "I don't want to endorse a genocide." sends them into a frothing rage, with arguments immediately fired against the right. They see it as 'us vs. them', but fail to see that people don't want to endorse a genocide no matter the color of the party.

    • darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml
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      25 days ago

      Non-participation is simply letting the greater evil win.

      They're not suddenly going to ditch first past the post because of some protest voters/abstainers.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        25 days ago

        Dem supporters have been holding their noses for 50+ years and voting for the "lesser evil". If that has brought us to this election, where your choice is between "genocide" and "genocide +", isn't it obvious that voting for the "lesser evil" just inevitably trends towards the greater evil over time? It is not a successful strategy at mitigating harm.

        • darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml
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          24 days ago

          isn't it obvious that voting for the "lesser evil" just inevitably trends towards the greater evil over time? .

          What's obvious is that multiple election cycles of non-participation lead to people who want the greater evil winning the vote more often.

          It is not a successful strategy at mitigating harm

          Counterpoint: literally any of the things that happened under Trump that Hillary almost certainly wouldn't have done.

          Like nominating three of the judges that overturned roe

          We've been down that road before

          What doesn't happen is non-participation leading to the abolishion of America's two party system.

      • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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        25 days ago

        Since you just did the thing they described but without addressing it, let me repeat them.

        Why do you support a system that repeatedly makes you choose between mega hitler and giga hitler? Surely you recognize that such a system is evil and participation is an endorsement of it.

      • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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        23 days ago

        What would you call a machine that routinely and predictably produces evil outputs with marginal differences between them? How reliable of an evil-producer does this machine have to be before you recognize that the production of a certain type of evil is the machine’s purpose?