It's sad to see S4A dying more and more on this hill. Just a few months ago they offered both Green's and PSL as alternatives, but it seems like they doubled down and got very butthurt by commenters questioning their "anti-revisionism". They keep posting a 2007 article from PSL's Liberation School that was more critical on the CPC then their party line is today as proof that they "de-evolved", but frankly I read through it and basically they just said that Dengism has sucked because it brought capitalism back to China but also that it would be disastrous for the CPC to lose power unless it were somehow replaced with another Communist revolution (which... ain't gonna happen in the near future). So the conclusion was to remain critical but support the socialist tendencies that still exist.
The kicker is S4A literally used to work with the Green's and then left because they viewed it as a dead-end, not-explicitly-socialist party. And now they are actually better to support than PSL because... PSL has a wrong line on China?
It's especially stupid because an ideological disagreement in the US left about a foreign country's challenges building socialism truly will not matter until far, far down the line, and that's assuming we ever find a modicum of success.
it would be disastrous for the CPC to lose power unless it were somehow replaced with another Communist revolution (which... ain't gonna happen in the near future). So the conclusion was to remain critical but support the socialist tendencies that still exist.
this is a fact and one of the main reason I despise the people who say "USSR was State capitalist sweaty" ,the USSR's existence even at it's sad final days was a good thing for the world and for the people of the 3rd world and the global south
I do want to say that if people would rather vote for Green's over PSL to try to reach the 5% threshold, I find that pretty reasonable. It would be great to have a real leftist 3rd party get the chance to actually callout dems and repubs directly. I've been more impressed with Hawkins's writings than I expected, and so I will check out Green's as well as PSL local chapters when I'm back in the states.
It's sad to see S4A dying more and more on this hill. Just a few months ago they offered both Green's and PSL as alternatives, but it seems like they doubled down and got very butthurt by commenters questioning their "anti-revisionism". They keep posting a 2007 article from PSL's Liberation School that was more critical on the CPC then their party line is today as proof that they "de-evolved", but frankly I read through it and basically they just said that Dengism has sucked because it brought capitalism back to China but also that it would be disastrous for the CPC to lose power unless it were somehow replaced with another Communist revolution (which... ain't gonna happen in the near future). So the conclusion was to remain critical but support the socialist tendencies that still exist.
The kicker is S4A literally used to work with the Green's and then left because they viewed it as a dead-end, not-explicitly-socialist party. And now they are actually better to support than PSL because... PSL has a wrong line on China?
It's especially stupid because an ideological disagreement in the US left about a foreign country's challenges building socialism truly will not matter until far, far down the line, and that's assuming we ever find a modicum of success.
this is a fact and one of the main reason I despise the people who say "USSR was State capitalist sweaty" ,the USSR's existence even at it's sad final days was a good thing for the world and for the people of the 3rd world and the global south
I do want to say that if people would rather vote for Green's over PSL to try to reach the 5% threshold, I find that pretty reasonable. It would be great to have a real leftist 3rd party get the chance to actually callout dems and repubs directly. I've been more impressed with Hawkins's writings than I expected, and so I will check out Green's as well as PSL local chapters when I'm back in the states.