lol, you're not wrong. it is a simple and coherent analysis of power, which made it difficult for the US libs to engage with. they had wanted them to like America because we were the good guys. this was during the bush years and maybe 4 years post-Mission Accomplished. the Turkish guys didn't like Bush much, but it was understandable to them that sometimes the big man has to fuck shit up and remind people who is in charge.

it was wild shit and I didn't ask any political questions for a while on the trip after that lol.