A massive increase in defense spending is set to hit Greenland in a move that would allow the Artic territory to fortify its military’s strength.

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  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Death to NATO. Its an objectively good thing for humanity. I don't care if your boogey man also wants it, its a good thing

      • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        Just bc you aren't on the battle field doesn't mean you aren't at war with Russia. The US and NATO are just using Ukrainians to fight their war

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                10 months ago

                The resumed and emboldened massacre of eastern Ukranians by the banderite coup government, same as the decade that led up to this, except without even the tissue-thin veneer of western disapproval

                • Gloomy@mander.xyz
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                  10 months ago

                  You mean of Russian-Backed separatists?

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20230323083343/https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/documents/publications/mh17/map/2023/report-mh17

                  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    Yes, exactly. The Eastern Ukranians who got sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites and petitioned Russia for protection will be slaughtered wholesale, man woman and child, and your only response is "well they shouldn't have thrown in with the orcs for protectionsmuglord" Perhaps the US-backed nazi government shouldn't have spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions then? Just a thought.

                    Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It's no wonder you're on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        If you're in the US, you already are lol

        But I'm not sure what that has to do with the fact that NATO should be dissolved

        • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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          10 months ago

          I'm not in the US

          It has to do with the fact that my country exists because NATO protects it. Russia violates our airspace regularly.

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            10 months ago

            my country exists because NATO protects it.

            Then "your country" shouldn't exist. Its just a US vassal at that point anyway

                • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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                  10 months ago

                  k man

                  All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart. NATO support before Russia invaded Ukraine was decreasing.

                  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart

                    Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90's they were refused?

                    What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?

                    Because it exists to be aggressive toward designated enemies of the US

                  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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                    10 months ago

                    There would probably be a manufactured excuse to keep it around. It seems like that’s already happening with the hyping up of a potential conflict with China.

                  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    America and 18 other countries invaded Russia in 1918 to restore the monarchy, kicking off a century of relentless aggression. They aren't the ones who started this cycle and they're not the ones with the power to stop it. We are.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        What is literally happening right now, literally today that you think should change people's minds about not supporting nazis?

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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          10 months ago

          Millions of Ukrainians spending Christmas day without powered due to 70 missile attack from an aggressive neighbour.

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            10 months ago

            I want to make very, very sure you read my entire comment. People spending Christmas without power is all it takes for you to put on the armband and throw your support behind the "gas em all 1488 racial holy war now" faction and become an enemy of like 98% of humanity? If so, incredible unprompted mask drop. Like, for real? Because that and worse happens in war all the time dude. You don't see me growing a little tiny mustache just because I think Dresden was overkill. Would that have been enough to turn you into a hitlerite back then too?

    • BrikoX@lemmy.zip
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      10 months ago

      NATO is just one manifestation of military industrial complex. Just getting rid of it without any global change it would be net negative for the humanity.

      The primary issue with NATO is that it's often misused by US for its own personal needs.

      • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        The primary purpose of NATO is to maintain western hegemony over the global south to better extract resources and profit from it. It being gone is a net good

        • BrikoX@lemmy.zip
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          10 months ago

          Yes, the primary issue I mention is the purpose you are talking about. Thank you for repeating what I said. It being disbanded wouldn't automatically be net positive, since despite the issues it creates, it does serve other valid purposes. You need to address systemic issues, not manifestations of those issues to solve anything. Because if not NATO, it would be another 4 letter organization doing exactly the same thing by exactly the same people.

            • BrikoX@lemmy.zip
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              10 months ago
              • Standardization of military equipment and protocols, so that each NATO country can operate the same equipment without needing re-training.
              • Unified communication infrastructure for instant information sharing during wartime period.
              • Protection from Russia's imperialism and stated goal of reunification of former USSR territories.
              • Containment of Germany following their demilitarization.
                • BrikoX@lemmy.zip
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                  10 months ago

                  Because any war leads to human losses, so prevention of war is a good thing, not bad.

                  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    NATO does not prevent war. The term "defensive pact" is bullshit. NATO has always been a geopoltical aggressor. Its an appendage if US empire

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                10 months ago

                You are not describing other purposes, you are describing means by which NATO pursues it's one purpose. Also, what is your understanding of the word "imperialism"?

                  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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                    10 months ago

                    Obviously things are imperialism when Russians do them. Imps are closely related creatures to orcs and goblins.

                • BrikoX@lemmy.zip
                  hexagon
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                  10 months ago

                  Protection from Russia's imperialism and stated goal of reunification of former USSR territories.

                  Should be self-explanatory.

    • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      Ask the Poles how the Soviets treated them

      Don’t trust the Poles? Ask any number of victim countries brutalized.

      That ‘boogeyman’ ex-KGB is doing it today to Ukraine…