Something something don't throw rocks in glass houses...

      • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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        2 days ago

        The inevitable collapse of the west is going to come as complete shock to people like you. The writing is on the wall but you are just to smug and self assured to even contemplate it.

        I do feel sorry for you, because ultimately you've been hoodwinked by a very effective propaganda machine that is going to feed you into a mulcher to prolong the failing Western hegemony.

        • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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          2 days ago

          The inevitable collapse of the west is going to come as complete shock to people like you.

          It's not, but I'm sure that's hard to believe when you need to hate me because I disagreed with you on a point of factual statistics.

          The writing is on the wall but you are just to smug and self assured to even contemplate it.

          I don't know what this has to be with the F35 failure rate

          ultimately you’ve been hoodwinked by a very effective propaganda machine that is going to feed you into a mulcher to prolong the failing Western hegemony.

          We're being fed to the same mulcher, man. You're not owning class, we're both gonna die in World War 3.

          It seems like you have a lot of assumptions about me and what I believe

          • Count042@lemmy.ml
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            2 days ago

            And yet you won't respond to the comment that points out that this awesome plane that only works a third of the time cost 7 times more than the entire fucking Apollo program from start to finish.

            It was a grift.

            A scam.

            A con.

            The sole purpose of that plane is to steal the money that you work for and pay taxes on and give it to rich people.

            That's it.

            That's what you are defending.

            The largest scam probably in human history.

            • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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              2 days ago

              Who are you, Pierre Spray? Of course it siphoned money out of the peoples hands, that's what America does. That doesn't mean the plane doesn't work. Also no, I'm not gonna respond to all 6 of you. You all have the same point.

              You are wrong about the statistics and none of you have owned up to that and the only one who actually went and checked (presumably) when I pointed it out is weaseling his way out of it with disingenuous language instead of just saying the number, because they know that they'd look dumb if if they said less than 30 of over 900 built have crashed and less than half of those were actually a plane malfunction and not operator error or a fucking experimental test frame. It's easier to say "many crash" than to give a number and leave it up to the reader to interpret whatever that means. It's also easy to imply that the planes are broken and non-functional two-thirds of the time by implying that basic-ass maintenance standards are somehow a bad thing. There does not exist a fighter jet which does not sit in a hangar or below deck for most of its life. The F35 is more complex than the planes it replaced and is full of exotic materials, so of course it requires more maintenance.

              Please understand that I also hate America- I just base my hatred in factual reality.

          • Kras Mazov@lemmygrad.ml
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            2 days ago

            It's not, but I'm sure that's hard to believe when you need to hate me because I disagreed with you on a point of factual statistics.

            So, when you call us tankies it's all fine and dandy, but the moment someone responds, they are hating on you? Lol

          • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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            2 days ago

            I think the biggest difference between you and me is that you'll happily walk in to that mulcher to protect someone else's stock value.

      • Count042@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        The F-35 program has so far cost us 7 times (adjusted for inflation) what it cost us to go to the fucking moon for a plane that only works 30 percent of the time.

        You don't need to be a 'tankie' (a word I doubt you could define) to recognize that that is a ripoff.

        Capitalists should be furious about this obvious fucking grift to funnel tax payer money to the board members of defense companies.