God I guess that goes to show how sad my version of optimism has become. I look at The Troubles Come to America as one of the optimistic outcomes lol. Like you said, avoiding eco-fascism and eventually successfully limiting police and military harm would be great... But I don't expect society to successfully reintegrate all of those Chud cops and soldiers. I guess if the phase out happened over time it wouldn't be as drastic, but can you imagine laying off 20-30% of cops? That's gonna be a bad time.