I lived in China before, compared to the US... actually there is no comparison. Compared to the US it might as well be heaven.
Honestly living there is the vaccine against anti-China propaganda. Unless you're a sexpat. All the "authoritarianism" bullshit falls flat on its face for anyone who's spent any significant time there.
I'm just so tired of this new cold war shit, so unbelievably exhausted with arguing with people who read an MSNBC article once about how China is murdering 10 trillion Uighurs a day.
I lived in South Korea for awhile and would not describe it as heaven. It just has a different set of problems from the USA, although health care and public transportation are amazingly better and if you can get a decent public school gig or a university job as an English teacher you are pretty much all set.
Still, from what I gather the people of China approve of their government way more than South Koreans do of theirs. A (white) colleague of mine from Korea moved to China before the pandemic and (in racist fashion) described the Chinese as robots because they love their government so much. She lived there through the pandemic, confirmed that things in China had gone back to normal while thousands of Americans were dying per day, and is a staunch anti-communist. She needs to put those ideology glasses on!
Also, would you mind explaining why you say that China is heaven? Let me dream...
Heaven compared to the US, ofc it's not some perfect utopia. I'm referring to infrastructure that isn't constantly falling apart, that actually exists in the first place (bullet trains, for example). Also the frequency of encountering assholes is far less, in my experience. I guess not living in a failed state leads to increased happiness. You can actually discuss Marxism without being ostracized. Ofc poverty still exists but there's less of it every day. Probably many other things I'm missing here. Maybe the reason they support their government is because it actually gives a shit about them. All in all, just miles and miles ahead of the US. But yeah I guess you could call it dystopian if you consider that to be when the government puts up posters and slogans and has national holidays. In all my years of living there I did not get murdered for being a foreigner (occasionally people tried to hustle me because I looked like the tourists who fall for their shit, but basic instincts should protect you and this isn't a problem unique to China), the secret police did not kick down my door because I used a VPN, I was not barred from leaving the country, I was not inexplicably detained, and I did not receive any money from the CCP for being a Chinese bot. The users over at :reddit-logo: might think otherwise, though.
I lived in China before, compared to the US... actually there is no comparison. Compared to the US it might as well be heaven.
Honestly living there is the vaccine against anti-China propaganda. Unless you're a sexpat. All the "authoritarianism" bullshit falls flat on its face for anyone who's spent any significant time there.
I'm just so tired of this new cold war shit, so unbelievably exhausted with arguing with people who read an MSNBC article once about how China is murdering 10 trillion Uighurs a day.
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I lived in South Korea for awhile and would not describe it as heaven. It just has a different set of problems from the USA, although health care and public transportation are amazingly better and if you can get a decent public school gig or a university job as an English teacher you are pretty much all set.
Still, from what I gather the people of China approve of their government way more than South Koreans do of theirs. A (white) colleague of mine from Korea moved to China before the pandemic and (in racist fashion) described the Chinese as robots because they love their government so much. She lived there through the pandemic, confirmed that things in China had gone back to normal while thousands of Americans were dying per day, and is a staunch anti-communist. She needs to put those ideology glasses on!
Also, would you mind explaining why you say that China is heaven? Let me dream...
Heaven compared to the US, ofc it's not some perfect utopia. I'm referring to infrastructure that isn't constantly falling apart, that actually exists in the first place (bullet trains, for example). Also the frequency of encountering assholes is far less, in my experience. I guess not living in a failed state leads to increased happiness. You can actually discuss Marxism without being ostracized. Ofc poverty still exists but there's less of it every day. Probably many other things I'm missing here. Maybe the reason they support their government is because it actually gives a shit about them. All in all, just miles and miles ahead of the US. But yeah I guess you could call it dystopian if you consider that to be when the government puts up posters and slogans and has national holidays. In all my years of living there I did not get murdered for being a foreigner (occasionally people tried to hustle me because I looked like the tourists who fall for their shit, but basic instincts should protect you and this isn't a problem unique to China), the secret police did not kick down my door because I used a VPN, I was not barred from leaving the country, I was not inexplicably detained, and I did not receive any money from the CCP for being a Chinese bot. The users over at :reddit-logo: might think otherwise, though.