windows:

-press button

-blue swirly screen for what feels like an eternity

-blank screen for another minute

-computer finally powers off

linux:

-press button

-(terminal mode only) prints out services its turning off and what its doing

-computer is off within 2-5 seconds every time

wtf windows?

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    My favorite is the "waiting for programs to close" window that inevitably gets stuck on a bunch of Windows Explorer windows.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I hate so much that I basically can't eject my external drive when my computer is on because it is always in use even though it isn't. And they still haven't created anything to show which processes are using it (probably some internal Windows service since Windows is garbage).

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You haven't actually needed to eject before removing the external drive since like windows 7. And I'm pretty sure whatever service is responsible for making sure nothing breaks is the one that won't let you eject, lmao.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah but you still never know if there's something trying to write a file on an external drive and if pulling it out would make that program only do a partial write. But the idea that it may be the service itself causing it to not eject is plausible 🤔. Maybe I could try setting it to use write-caching (which requires manual eject) and see if it ejects easier.

  • Yanqui_UXO [any]
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    3 years ago

    i suspect Windows just doesn't want to be turned off because of all the monetization schemes Microsoft is running. which is ironic because it does need a reboot once in a while, unlike Linux dostros

  • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    I thought the whole point of Linux was to impress everyone with your massive uptime.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      You can turn it off at "Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options\System Settings" by deselecting "Turn on fast startup" in admin mode. It has barely any difference either way, at least when the C drive is an SSD. However, you should turn on UEFI Fast Boot (in the firmware settings) which lets Windows do more of the initialization at startup and fewer firmware drivers are loaded. Fair warning that on my motherboard turning on UEFI fast boot can make it difficult to get back into the firmware (BIOS). Need to completely shut down by turning off the PSU and waiting for like a whole minute, otherwise the motherboard stays powered.

      edit: It also doesn't dump full RAM, just a bunch of drivers and stuff like that which it reuses.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        If you have a Linux distro installed too, just use grub and you'll never have issues getting to the bios again

  • Galli [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    linux always takes a minute to shutdown because I can't remember the shutdown flags

  • Sushi_Desires
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    3 years ago

    wtf windows?

    Gotta make sure they collect all that telemetry and salacious advertising data kicking around in volatile memory :michael-laugh:

    • neo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It might not be powering off fully. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup

      A convenient speed feature until it breaks e.g. something glitches out and when you power up your computer it remains glitched, because nothing was actually reinitialized. Also makes it basically impossible to dual-boot.

  • playboicarti [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    if you're so concerned about shutdown times just unplug the fucker

  • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    Who shuts down computers any more? Just put them in sleep or hibernate. It's not just for laptops, it works fine on desktops.

    You come right back to where you were without any long boot process, then starting all your programs, etc.

    • RollOfTape [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      What long boot process lol get a SSD already.

      Also think about the environment if everyone left their computers to hibernate we'd need a lot of energy :anprim-pat:

      • thisismyrealname [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        the whole point of hibernation is that it uses the same amount of energy as when the computer is shut off

        everything in RAM gets written to the disk and then loaded back into RAM when your computer boots next time