It seems like this is a very important conversation for Western socialists but I really don't see much discussion regarding this. What seems intuitive to me is that the answer is probably not many, but maybe that's just owe to the crumbs we have living in the imperial core.

Thoughts?

    • InternetLefty [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Things getting worse isn't necessarily enough though. Things are already very precarious for a lot of people in the US. When would we see the tipping point, and what would we expect to do it? A consumer debt bubble forcing people out of their homes? The formation of Hoovervilles? I think the US ruling class is trying to avoid that... Maybe they won't be able to?

      It seems like something could shake loose any day now and we could see a cascading effect of economic crises... When will the shoe drop, though? That is the question.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        It seems like something could shake loose any day now and we could see a cascading effect of economic crises… When will the shoe drop, though? That is the question.

        I don't know. I wish it would though. I'm a bit more of a downer about things though and think nothing is going to happen. I hope I'm wrong.

        • InternetLefty [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          I think something will happen. We will either see an incredible collapse, or things will be magically straightened out and then we will have a new understanding of capitalism and imperialism

      • steve5487 [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        also things have been much worse without a revolution, Britain stopped being an industrial power in part because the average British worker was too sick from malnutrition and the effects of long term extreme poverty to work as well as a contemporary American or German, children in factories were often kept in chains 24/7 and regularly worked until they actually dropped dead.

        This did not lead to a revolution in the UK, so things being bad is not the sole factor in revolutions