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  • Ploumeister [he/him]
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    3 年前

    “Says who? I am politically educated on multiple fronts, not just WW3 with China. And trust me, I am for further improvement. But I am not for the burying of our positive contributions out of sheer hatred.

    I disagree that it doesn't matter that China and Russia are purposefully infiltrating US medias to spread false narratives and censorship. They are causing society to collapse in on itself.

    How are the masses supposed to support their freedoms in a state like that? The less disunity, the better.

    Let democracy live on.”

    Mfer got a fucking phd in clown politics from the university of Reddit and piss shit dumbass brain

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    3 年前

    Yeah there is racism in Asia, it’s called white supremacy

    Bleaching, anti-blackness, toleration of western sexpests etc

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        3 年前

        No, but Chinese kids aren't spamming the n-word online because of Confucius

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 年前

      Yeah there is racism in Asia, it’s called white supremacy

      Nah, dude. There's some straight up China/Japan hate. There's still a bunch of Russia/Japan resentment over the Russo-Japanese War. Arabs and Persians will absolutely go at it without any help from Europe. Hindus and Muslims, too.

      White people might think they're on the top of the pile, but they don't have the market cornered on bigotry by a long shot.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        3 年前

        Yeah, but all of that shit is informed and subsumed by white supremacy thanks to colonial legacies

        This ain’t a competition, European social systems have simply been hegemonic these last few centuries, that has a long term effect on expressions of bigotry the world over

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 年前

          all of that shit is informed and subsumed by white supremacy thanks to colonial legacies

          It was definitely played into during colonial occupation. But westerners didn't create the Soviet-Sino split. Nor did westerners force Japan to do a genocide in Manchuria. Westerners didn't create the Sunni/Shia split or the Hindu Caste system.

          This ain’t a competition

          It's a simple acknowledgement that removing western influence does not somehow sanitize a culture of its own bigotries. European hegemony has normalized whiteness globally and positioned white men at the top of existing social hierarchies. Removing them from power won't remove the hierarchy.

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            3 年前

            Westerners didn’t create the Sunni/Shia split or the Hindu Caste system.

            Their modern iterations they absolutely did, the tensions between Sunnis and Shia (when it's not being exaggerated by western media) is 100% a US/Saudi led project decades in the making

            And the British quite literally modified, racialized, and expanded the caste system during the Raj

            It’s a simple acknowledgement that removing western influence does not somehow sanitize a culture of its own bigotries.

            I don't agree with a pessimist take like this, historically the removal of western influence was followed by immense social change and a progressive flourishing, however short it was; Burkina Faso, Bolivia, Cuba, Vietnam, United Arab Republic, the undermining or removal of a social ideology installed by colonial powers over the course of centuries absolutely can change a culture overnight, power structures bereft of a material basis and social narrative don't magically maintain themselves, and it doesn't automatically imply new bigotries will just emerge out of a vacuum fully formed

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              3 年前

              Their modern iterations they absolutely did

              The modern iteration is simply "European aristocrats go on top". Where as, for the vast majority of the history of the country, they would have lived near the bottom. And while they happily played up the conflicts between Muslim migrants - whose religion had spread rapidly all along East Africa and South Asia - and Hindu natives where it was convenient, they also routinely found themselves pincered between warring factions within the greater Hindu state (the northern border wars with the Pashtuns, the tug-of-war over Kashmir, etc).

              the tensions between Sunnis and Shia (when it’s not being exaggerated by western media) is 100% a US/Saudi led project decades in the making

              The US/Saudi regime replaced the Ottoman Empire, which managed cultural splits by doing periodic pogroms and genocides (most notably the Armenian Genocide). Old boss same as the new boss.

              historically the removal of western influence was followed by immense social change and a progressive flourishing, however short it was; Burkina Faso, Bolivia, Cuba, Vietnam, United Arab Republic, the undermining or removal of a social ideology installed by colonial powers over the course of centuries absolutely can change a culture overnight

              The civic nationalism and egalitarian socialism necessary to overthrow an imperial power often requires those social changes predate the revolution. What you see in the aftermath is a generation's worth of work to unify disparate peoples coming to fruition.

              But consider the hostility between Vietnam and China or Iraq and Iran following their revolutions. Or, again, the Sino-Soviet split. Once nations have congealed and developed their own internal politics, the interests of factions within the state won't necessarily align with those on the outside, regardless of how ideologically aligned they might be at the roots.

              "Colonialism could only come from Europe" isn't a sound materialist assumption, nor does it bare out historically. Everything from the Congo Wars to Imperial China / Japan to Pre-Columbian Native Civilizations suggest the drive towards imperialist control is a chronic condition within human populations.

              • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                3 年前

                “Colonialism could only come from Europe”

                I'm not claiming that, I'm pointing out the global colonialism that actually took place was a European phenomenon, local elites of colonial territories were educated in western schools, learning western schema, following western political directives, accumulating western capital for generations, these historical realities have enormous long term effects on the social, cultural, economic direction of all these nations

                Even the example of Japan you've used multiple times is not immune, it's isolation forcefully broken by western guns, its economic constitution underwritten by German developmentalism and hilariously enough the British postal service, its fascistic militarists taking power directly as a result of Japanese finance ministers lifting Anglo liquidationism and applying it to their economy creating the Showa depression

                An export oriented economy on a resource poor island (hmm I wonder what fueled Japanese Imperialism) led by a cohort of westaboo aristocrats who learned race science in European schools and applied it to their own imperial conceptions of Asia

                Now this whole time we've been talking about bigotry and prejudice, so the Sino-Soviet split, an ideological and political squabble does not represent some foundational civilizational race hatred between Russians and Han Chinese, the Ottoman empire while also an Asian power was also historically a fully recognized EUROPEAN power integrated into the European power game for centuries, historians literally lose their minds over people forgetting this fact

                Saddam and the Shah were American funded, armed and backed creatures, the Congo wars a result of CIA backed coups and colonial border blowback, Pre-Columbian Native Civilizations annihilated by Spanish imperialism....on and on, Europe took over the globe, that's a fact and that fact has consequences and pretending that it's the Songhai Empire of old that underlies modern bigotry in western Africa or any other similar example is ridiculous

                It's the last save file that matters

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    3 年前

    Imagine thinking you're speaking out against the CCP is being censored on reddit. All :reddit-logo: is these days is anti-CCP propaganda:pain:

  • Teekeeus
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    25 天前

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    • NPa [he/him]
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      3 年前

      america really is the narcissistic parent of countries

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 年前

    Ever think about how the Mexican census doesn't factor in "ethnicity" like the USA does, despite Mexico being, by the standards of the USA, incredibly diverse and multiracial?

  • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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    3 年前

    "You're all fucking embarrassments"

    "The vast majority of the world is far more racist than the west..."

    Love it when lib plebbitors say the most lousebrained shit and still manage to get filled with such smug energy and delusions of intellectual grandeur.

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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    3 年前

    Blaming Russian and China for something the CIA is absolutely doing to the American public to help maintain the interests of capital :big-cool:

  • Flaps [he/him]
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    3 年前

    Almost made a new account on :reddit-logo: just to tell this dude to eat shit.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 年前

      Gotta say, one of the weirder things about European politics from an American perspective is how they freak out over other white people.

      Americans literally don't care if you're Irish or Iranian, so long as you pass the paper bag test. The Brits are holding you at gunpoint and doing 23-and-me to figure out if you're illegally Pollack.