Completely derailing these conversations like this is funny af. Whenever I run into asshole Christians, I show that I was raised by fundies by simply pretending to be infinitely more pious than whoever I'm speaking to. They never have a good answer for it, it's great.
Yeah, that's the mormon holy land! That's why it's called Zion.
wait, really? I thought that was just a coincidence
Not a coincidence. Utah as a state was founded by Mormons. Brigham Young, the guy that makes Joseph Smith look like a saint, was the first governor of the state.
Damn! I never knew that but I wondered if there was a connection.
Thanks!
(I mean, I knew about Utah as a state generally, but not about Zion being an intentional marker. When Palestine is free, we should ship all Zionists to Utah)
The funniest solution
Last Podcast on the Left has a pretty good series on the early Mormon guys.
Not a coincidence but it's important t to note it was about their 4thnor 5th zion after "finding zion" and then passing off the locals so bad they had to move west 200 miles and try again until they went far enough there was noone else to piss off and be chased out by.
In a strange twist of irony that would certainly strengthen my faith if I was a Mormon the place they settled on did end up being one of the most beautiful places on earth.