Copy of a comment I made on the post, sans some sectarianism (guy who made the post is a :funny-clown-hammer: ). I have been trying to use the argument starting with 'for any self-describes socialists' on these anti-tankie posts.
Like why is this post even being made, is this subreddit awash in out of place pro-China sentiment, looking at the comments here I doubt it. For any self-described socialists here that would consider themselves anti-“tankie” I would look inwards and wonder why I have been able to successfully reject propaganda against communism as a concept, but also simultaneously believe that the same institutions that lied about that are telling the unabashed truth about every socialist project that has existed.
Point taken, but I do think there are "genuine" (i,e sincerely believe themselves to be anti-capitalist and for the establishment of a stateless society) that are anti-aes, even if it is not a majority. I think the audience I'm looking for is the people that are "only socialists in the sense bernie is" as I was that person at one point in my life, and I'm sure others here were at one point as well.
It's important to note that Bernie calling himself a socialist didn't start the equivocating socdems and socialists, given that the right has been calling literally any restriction on the property rights of the rich "socialist" for more than a century.
Copy of a comment I made on the post, sans some sectarianism (guy who made the post is a :funny-clown-hammer: ). I have been trying to use the argument starting with 'for any self-describes socialists' on these anti-tankie posts.
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Point taken, but I do think there are "genuine" (i,e sincerely believe themselves to be anti-capitalist and for the establishment of a stateless society) that are anti-aes, even if it is not a majority. I think the audience I'm looking for is the people that are "only socialists in the sense bernie is" as I was that person at one point in my life, and I'm sure others here were at one point as well.
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It's important to note that Bernie calling himself a socialist didn't start the equivocating socdems and socialists, given that the right has been calling literally any restriction on the property rights of the rich "socialist" for more than a century.