Link to the thread: https://programming.dev/post/8969747
Hello everyone, I've followed this thread yesterday and noticed a few very negative reactions towards the choice of Java. I follow Java evolution from far away, but it seemed like it was evolving in a good direction since the last few years, and that performance-wise it would make sense for the back-end of a Lemmy-like platform.
Is it indeed the case? I was just curious to see that much negativity towards one of the most popular languages.
"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses" - Bjarne Stroustrup
Well Lemmy is Rust - Plus Lemmy is already an alternative for Reddit, so all the "normies" are still on Reddit - So Lemmy itself is already a bit of a niche sample size.
Rust developers are already known (/memed) to be elitist about Rust - and "Java is Bad" is also just the general consensus among developers, especially ones using more niche languages
People hate Java when they are forced to use it. Or when they switch from other language to the Java and expect same semantics and behaviour. Historically Java was quite bad in character/sense ratio this coupled with Enterprise patterns and people who have no idea how to write programs on java resulted in atrocious code bases with nightmare episodes. Currently I am writing non-stop Java for about 15 years. And I am able to tolerate Java quirks, because I know how to side step them. I don't like Java, but given the choice I would pick it as a language that I am willing to code for money out of many others. Java have amazing ecosystem, ci/cd culture and instruments. Dunking on "bad" language is okay especially in the joke context.
In the end there is no ideal language, they are just more or less fitting for a task or role.
Personally java is still my favorite language. I program in others as well but when I'm free to pick a language java is still my go-to and I love a lot of the new features that have been added. This project is definitely really cool and I might even give it a drive.
Honestly I do think java is kinda bad, but that doesn't really matter that much if you're not developing in it. Haven't looked through the thread but it sounds like people are just being armchair elitists. I would prefer not to code in java but when I'm just using software there are a lot of things that are more important than what language is written in.
