• purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org
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    9 months ago

    This is how Trump won in the first place, wikileaks published emails of Hilary's campaign doing this. Instead of critisizing her for being responsible for Trump, democrats blamed Russia and attecked Wikileaks as Russian spies, literally called for shooting the messenger.

    This is a prime example of why voting for lesser evil is not a tactic in politics and the whole liberal ideology as whole that we just need to vote for right people, instead of removing powerful positions in government in the first place.

    • rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      The wikileaks thing is highly suspect, though. Like, wikileaks intentionally disclosed a lot of publicly damaging dirt on Clinton and the Dems at a very sensitive time in the election while not releasing ANYTHING on the GOP, even though they supposedly had that information.

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          Nothing suspect besides them turning into Putin's laundromat. Oh, and then there was the not so subtle pushing of conspiracy theories exploiting Seth Rich's death. Real class act there.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
            hexagon
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            9 months ago

            nah, the real class act is the shit that we now know about what US does around the world and domestically thanks to wikileaks

            • pingveno@lemmy.ml
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              9 months ago

              I used to love Wikileaks. They did genuine good throughout the years. That reputation was forever sullied in 2016 when Assange showed that he could be the puppet for one dictatorial regime (Putin) to promote a proto-fascist (Trump). Then the lies that he used as a coverup! Hardly befitting the head of a "radical transparency" organization. It was all so grotesque and petty. Trump might have just disappeared after 2016 if he hadn't been elected, but instead the world has to deal with the consequences of the MAGAts for the foreseeable future. It felt like Assange betrayed the underlying cause of Wikileaks in favor of petty revenge on Democrats.

      • chauncey [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        lol this comment is a great example of a lib grasping for a weak explanation instead of criticizing Hillary Clinton.

        • rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          Hillary Clinton is a corporate shill, but you have to be fucking born yesterday to think wikileaks doesn't play realpolitik or perform political favors.

        • rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          I dunno, I guess that depends. Do they actively and publicly fuel a conspiracy theory that Trump had someone murdered like they did with the Clintons and Seth Rich?

  • PatMustard@feddit.uk
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    9 months ago

    If you have two potential opponents, a slightly crazy one and a really crazy one, and you think you're more likely to be able to beat the really crazy one then it's a calculated risk to try and help the really crazy one beat the slightly crazy one for you. Your gamble doesn't pay off if suddenly the really crazy one beats you though.

  • deft@lemmy.wtf
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    9 months ago

    Coke and Pepsi game. Everyone does this.

    China's intelligence community is closer friends with America's intelligence community than either of their own population.

      • deft@lemmy.wtf
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        9 months ago

        Intelligence communities are closer friends with each other than their own people.

        Since you have so much free time go find the list of people imprisoned by either country, executed by either country and killed either directly or indirectly by these countries. You'll see what I'm saying.

        They have a better chance of making money one way than another, that's always what all of this is about. Money.

        Intelligence communities are better friends with each other than their own people.