• poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    9 months ago

    My first long term gf was/is a proud lib. I think we were watching Saving Private Ryan and somehow the conversation got to her asking if I'd have volunteered to serve in Vietnam. I think everyone knows my answer. She goes on this diatribe about the horror of the Soviet Union and communism, the KGB, and the dominoe theory. I pointed out that Vietnam won, and that was the last time we watched a war movie together.

    • Benluxjan@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      When you say liberal i at least assume democrat. Which democrat thinks about volunteering for Vietnam, thats insane.

      There are even republicans who are against that war since the only "reedeming Quality" of that war makes sense If you are a rabid dog that still believes the Red scare.

      Idk im european so maybe im overreacting but isnt the Vietnam unpopular for the majority in the US?

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        It's kind of a mix. The Vietnam War is mostly unpopular now, but at the time there were plenty of liberals foaming at the mouth to "stop communism". They may dislike the conservatives, but they're still nationalists, and being called communists by the republicans all the time has put a chip on their shoulder where they want to prove that they're both patriotic and smarter than them. The Iraq War is a good example: the liberals saw the massive genocidal war crime unfolding in front of them, and their response was "this is so awful and sloppy and senseless, Bush is uniquely stupid, vote for us and we'll do this war of occupation in a smart, sensible way."

        They're mostly just as bloodthirsty as the overt right wingers, but they have some kind of decorum/denial fetish that compels them to do little procedural, bureaucratic and semantic dances around their bigotries and libidinal urges, rather than just admit them, even to themselves