• Ecoleo [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How did this dude take himself seriously when he wrote he was educated by "infographics, shitposts, and memes" on 4chan?

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      everyone and their dog knows that US media is dogshit propaganda, so they come to the (erroneous) conclusion that shitposts on white supremacists forums are "the real truth"

      • jwsmrz [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        As opposed to us big brain top-tier AAA+ posters who shitpost on the pig poop balls website

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          the shitposts are funny but there are real gems on this site from people who have undertaken serious scholastic or organizing endeavors and share what they've learned (while preserving the greatest degree of anonymity that they can). it's a depressingly low portion of the content and this community definitely gets caught up in the memes at the expense of critical thought - but that those posts exist and the sheer love of the mass of humanity that virtually everyone necessarily brings to this site is what makes our radicalism categorically different from the right.

          or said another way - the capitalists need only peaceably hand over the means of production and we will not kill them. we will care for them as much as we would any other person. that is, we welcome bourgeois class traitors. similarly with fascists: if they cease to be fascists we have no quarrel with them and we will again welcome them as potential comrades, after suitable reparations. however, we also understand that these demands will not be met and that these groups sit opposite us, waging class warfare against the greater whole of humanity. to bow to their humanity and to refuse to fight them is a capitulation that will cost all of us our lives because our class enemies do not in turn recognize our humanity.

          there is literally nothing I can do to appease a fascist - they demand my life on the basis of immutable factors of my birth that I cannot change. whereas they only need to desist from their projects to build fascism and I am completely satisfied.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I keep hammering on the idea that we don't need to kill people, we need to take power away from people. Jeff Bezos is just some guy with no imagination and too much gear in his system. If he died tomorrow he'd be immediately replaced by someone else who would do exactly the same things Bezos did. Bezos isn't dangerous, the systems that allow him to accumulate massive wealth and power are dangerous. If we can dismantle the systems Bezos and all the rest of them are just guys.

            • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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              3 years ago

              Not really sure how you dismantle those systems without killing anyone though

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I'm pretty sure you can't. But it's important not to fixate on the individuals.

        • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Earlier today I had a discussion on here where I linked to an anthropological research paper from 1985. On 4klan they just hurl racial slurs at each other and post "infographics" where they drew stars of david in MS paint over the entire CNN board of directors.

          • jwsmrz [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            plus we are guided by the immortal science of marxism leninism :lenin-sleeping:

        • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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          3 years ago

          I mean a lot of us listen to :citations-needed: so I think that brings up at least a few points from these knuckleheads ___

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          I mean we have pinned posts reading leftist theory in the book club every now and then. I don't participate at the moment, but it's there if you want it.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        They see things that confirm in their minds the biases they already have, without realizing they were biased. They already have a bunch of ideological beliefs but they have no awareness of ideology, so they think there beliefs are real and natural. Someone comes along selling propaganda, and if the propaganda says when they already believed they think "Hey this guy must be telling the truth" and from there they'll start to believe other things that the propagandist says and eventually you end up watching OAN and nodding along.

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      his entire letter looks like the copypasta "help us xi, please liberate america with Chengdu J-20 bombers", but serious. maybe some of you won't know what I'm talking about, lol. it's a satirical line used to make fun of a probably fed twitter (?) post where an alleged citizen in a country the US state department doesn't like asked for her country to be liberated and specified the American aircraft he/she desired to liberate their country.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        help us xi, please liberate america with Chengdu J-20 bombers

        This but unironically