https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20220708/k10013707601000.html

You've been avenged Asanuma! DIE BITCH! :japan-cool::stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    1. Why assassinate a former prime minister? Seems pretty low stakes. Was it to shut him up?

    2. Isn't it hard as hell to get a gun into Japan?

    3. What are your speculations? Yakuza? CIA?

    4. If the Americans did this, what would the motive be? Blame Russia? China? North Korea?

    5. Will this escalate or fizzle out?

    • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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      2 years ago
      1. He was pretty popular and campaigning for his party.
      2. Yes, seems to be a homemade (3D printed?) gun.
      3. Probably an even more ultranationalist wierdo like a monarchist.
      4. They didn't, the US loved Abe. Very cozy with NATO and anti-China.
      5. Too early to say.
        • dom [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Imagine getting mercd by a RadioShack flintlock

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Or just some right wing nuts that He tried to flirt this past years

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Isn't Shinzo Abe himself very right wing? What would the motivation be for right wingers to kill an ally after he left office? Is there any event in particular you're referring to?

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          The dude could be mentally not right and going nutty, who know. Sometimes, you don’t need a motive to kill peoples, some peoples just do it for no reason

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          It's like a Nazi killing a Prussian Aristo or and Austro-Fascist. Or the National Anarchists and Carlists to the right of Franco.

          • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Or the National Anarchists and Carlists to the right of Franco.

            :bruh: the people who put the word "national" before left ideology are always the worst lol

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Japan also have election upper house this weekend. Might be related to that

          • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            right, but he's out of power now. why not target the current guy who's a lib? Plenty of nazis hate trump for not being right wing enough but they're not gonna minecraft him over it. It doesn't add up as a motive.

      • summerbl1nd [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        my galaxy brain take is to get the rest of his party in line for whatever the spooks are planning next, wild guesses being

        1. reconciliation with SK and TW for alignment against CN
        2. shittier economic policies in the greater APAC region to create conditions for a US spatial fix
        3. idk, even more hawkish military buildup
      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah that makes sense. my only plausible reasoning for why a right wing organization would kill him, is to shut him up about something, or to frame somebody. But that introduces more unknowns.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          my only plausible reasoning for why a right wing organization would kill him

          Keep in mind that right wing people might have a wildly different view of reality than we do.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      I would love it if pepole killed more ex presidents. They should all be living in fear. And if enough of them are killed it serves as a deterrent in the same way prision works for other crimes.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        And if enough of them are killed it serves as a deterrent in the same way prision works for other crimes.

        So not really at all?

        • Farman [any]
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          2 years ago

          There must be some detrrent no?

            • Farman [any]
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              2 years ago

              Thank you. I did not know that.

            • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              is there a deterrent for "white-collar" crimes? those tend to be more premeditated and seem like they'd be less driven by desperation and therefore more subject to punitive deterrence

    • comi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Going by the dumbest possible conspiracy - aum shinrikyo

        • comi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, they executed some of them not too long ago. But I’ve said dumbest, not plausible lol

            • CommCat [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              man critical support for Aum Shinrikyo for tryig to liquidate the whole Japanese royal family, a step down for Aleph to only kill an ex PM, but still ok lol. Was Abe PM when they executed Shoko Asahara?

          • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            yooo what if it was Fusako Shigenobu, the leader of the Japanese Red Army, who was finally released from prison? Lol.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusako_Shigenobu#Release

      • scraeming [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Also Japan does have rural areas where gun ownership is a ton of paperwork (and about a year waiting period from what I've heard), but very much available to people in good standing for pest control. Nara is completely overrun with deer to the point of ecological peril, and there's at least one part of Japan where there's a dangerous overabundance of bears.

        • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          iirc you have to collect all your spent hulls and keep meticulous inventory of ammunition as well.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, apparently to even own a rifle you need to pass the equivalent of a US Military Expert Sharpshooter rating. Which I guess means if someone does decide to go full Minecraft they're gonna hit the target.

        • AernaLingus [any]
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          2 years ago

          I learned this from the documentary series Sabagebu!.

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        the CIA is really trying to take down the UK

        I've heard people say this a few times this week? What's the connection here? I know Bojo got couped by his own party this week but don't really know details. Why would the CIA be trying to take down UK? Are relations deteriorating between the UK and US?

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      If the Americans did this, what would the motive be? Blame Russia? China? North Korea?

      Generate nationalist sentiment because of waning support for fighting China?

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      My going hypothesis is either organized crime or lone wolf. I don't see any real political gain for killing an ex-politician. What connections, if any, does he have with organized crime?

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      If America did this, and maybe did :bojo: too, it could just be to break down their allies and make them more subservient as Russia and China are flexing their muscle. But it's doubtful the US did one, let alone both.