https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20220708/k10013707601000.html
You've been avenged Asanuma! DIE BITCH! :japan-cool::stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
Francis Fukuyama scientifically proven to be the wrongest person of all time
Definitely sliding into the coolzone rn :cool-zone: :japan-cool:
NHK and Reuters are now reporting Abe has died
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japanese-former-prime-minister-abe-has-died-nhk-2022-07-08/
Fuck Shinzo Abe. How this dude got a pass for all his vile shit while Xi got demonized is a crime.
I feel like it's pretty safe to assume "fuck that guy" but what did he do now? All I know is he was some conservative in charge of Japan for a long ass time
I'm about to sleep but I'll quickly say that he was involved in a lot of wwII era denialism and visiting the war shrine of war criminals that committed crimes in Korea and China. He shifted Japan into a more aggressive foreign policy by courting NATO and the US military in the name of "peace." He's been praised by Steve Bannon for his hard-right conservatism. Abenomics basically being Reaganomics and the Ainu and Okinawan people suffering more under his nationalist policies. Oh yeah. Didn't allow refugees unless they were women, which is very sus. Not sure if that's still the case anymore.
In Edwardian England maybe. My gut feeling seeing that is just a reminder of human trafficking and how Chinese immigrants largely had to be female to the US, and forced to be prostitutes sometimes contractionally to pay off the person who secured them a passport. Maybe it was just some sexism, but it sent a chill up my spine to be sure
Sure, but I should add this this was pretty much Japan's immigration policy with people moving from poorer countries like the Philippines. Not even refugees. Just people working in Japan who decided they wanted to stay longer.
All I know is he was some conservative in charge of Japan for a long ass time
that basically makes him a fascist tbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kan_Abe
A rather unremarkable politician?
when Abe was sabre rattling against NK, people pointed out that Jong Un's grandfather was an Anti-colonial fighter, whereas Abe's granddaddy was a Class A war Criminal.
Something the other person missed is that Shinzo's party "reinterpreted" the part of Japan's constitution that forbids them from having a non-defensive military, clearly signaling the country's intent to join the US on any imperialist adventures in Asia despite the overwhelming majority of Japanese people being against it.
I remember that and remember the fights in the Diet that took place during that period.
How this dude got a pass for all his vile shit while Xi got demonized is a crime.
One of the biggest eye openers for me was realizing how the people Western media demonizes are invariably the ones who oppose its hegemony, while fascist butchers who happen to be West-aligned get glowing praise
He supported US strikes against Syria. As did BoJo.
2 in 1 day, it’s not a meme anymore
Japanese prime minister voices support for U.S. military strikes on Syria
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-japan-idAFKBN1790TI
Just at the moment of hist greatest success, when an anime finally made people want a family, he gets taken down.
I'm imagining not a conspiracy of incels or the companies that profit from incels, but just one abnormally large incel. Not fat, but like andre the giant as an incel.
I'm seeing it as his size is completely irrelevant to his incel status. He just happens to be a largely proportioned fellow and can't connect to women in a healthy way. Don't get wrong, your idea amuses me, but my original vision cracks me up more.
He's like clifford the big red dog for rejection. Clifford the big red hog, if you will.
Because clifford grew from the love his owner gave him, this lad was engorged on rejection.
Man, what a depraved world we live, an old man gets gunned down and my reaction is “haha that’s sick dude”. And I don’t feel the least bit bad about it, get fucked rightoid.
Ballot box in one hand armalite in the other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCldL_qukLQ
:anti-thatcher-action:
My dad and I were at a fireworks show recently and when it ended he said, "no more boomers," and I was like :sicko-wistful:
If he didn't want socialists to crab rave at his death he shouldn't have been a dangerous asshole. Most people die without so much as a single rave crab.
Covid has definitely increased my tolerance for boomer death.
“Oh, a 60+ year old died? I guess that’s one tenth of a Tuesday in New Zealand”
"Hatsune Miku sends her regards."
Also the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh died today too: Yin and Yang.
Yugioh and Abe form a symbiant circle. What happens to one will affect the other, you must understand this
So we both quoted movies, but yours is much better, master qui-gon.
See, I like mine because it makes about as much sense as the actual movie quote.
The Gungans and Naboo weren't symbiotic at all, they were completely isolated from one another lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyodo_english/status/1545306362976272384
Shooter says "no grudge against Abe's political beliefs": police
Maybe he just wanted to impress Japanese Jodie Foster
Radical centrists strike again! Far-center is truly the most violent ideology
Twist: It was to impress the same Jodie Foster and he was trying to 1up Hinckley.
I have been disciplined on both a discord server (non-leftist one, but in its “news” channel) as well as in the browser game nationstates(tm) for saying
“Guys you will not believe what I just did to former president Shinzo Abe”
gotta say the stereotype is true the Japanese are more efficient, mfker got it done with like 2 pvc pipes, a heap of salvaged gunpowder and pinballs
He still has both his hands, I think that qualifies it as an excellent pipe gun
Did anyone try a "Sparklock" gun in the 19th century? Seems like it'd be possible well before they switched to percussion caps, let alone smokeless.
I would think hand carrying the batteries needed mighy be a big burden
True, maybe for artillery where you're already lugging heaps of primer around?
idk i would think a bit of fuse would be way cheaper and more durable than the massive copper pots filled with copper sulfate needed
Apparently someone did in the 1860s using a fuller cell in the stock. But by then Cartridges were rolling out.
Batteryies were huge and they sucked. By that time flintlocks were pretty slick and well developed.
Japanese-American here. NHK is currently reporting the shooter was a Japanese national.
Is it appropriate that I'm feeling the smallest, tiniest sliver of hope in my parents' birth country right now? I don't know what all this will lead to, but this is probably the biggest political event in Japan since the fucking atom bombs, holy shit.
People on Japanese internet are saying they've examined the footage more closely and think it's 2 pipes attached to a 2x4 block of wood. Might be an improvised weapon.
yeah the video had this big smokey blast, not what a normal gun does. someone witnessing said they thought abe got shot with a firework
A pipe, some lead shot, and the innards of a bunch of fireworks will make you a passable excuse for a shotgun.
Heck the Japanese made cannons from wood and they...kind of...worked. Of course like your tube of firework option there's a decent chance you'll get to fire it exactly once.
dudes probably breech loading like its the fucking 1700s and no one did anything lmao
"Reacting quickly to a shooting in a public place" is more of an American thing than a Japanese thing.
I'll admit I'm not educated on this, but don't most Yakuza and other organized crime syndicates tend to be made up of Zainichi and Burakumin and other marginalized social groups?
yeah but that doesn't make them the good guys, organized criminal organizations are always rightwing and very anti communist, heck they've been used by rightwing governments to hunt down leftists. They are hyper capitalists but do it outside the law.
The pragmatist in me wants it to be a rightoid just because it would make japan go hard left
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Why assassinate a former prime minister? Seems pretty low stakes. Was it to shut him up?
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Isn't it hard as hell to get a gun into Japan?
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What are your speculations? Yakuza? CIA?
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If the Americans did this, what would the motive be? Blame Russia? China? North Korea?
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Will this escalate or fizzle out?
- He was pretty popular and campaigning for his party.
- Yes, seems to be a homemade (3D printed?) gun.
- Probably an even more ultranationalist wierdo like a monarchist.
- They didn't, the US loved Abe. Very cozy with NATO and anti-China.
- Too early to say.
no, not 3d printed, taped together batteries to light homemade blackpowder
dude made a modern diy blunderbuss
Or just some right wing nuts that He tried to flirt this past years
Isn't Shinzo Abe himself very right wing? What would the motivation be for right wingers to kill an ally after he left office? Is there any event in particular you're referring to?
The dude could be mentally not right and going nutty, who know. Sometimes, you don’t need a motive to kill peoples, some peoples just do it for no reason
That's not fair. Hinckley had a reason, to impress Jodie Foster, and tbf he kinda did
lmao, by reason I meant more of a political motivation, but you're right, he did have a reason
I think he means a right wing nut who hated him for not being right wing enough
right, but he's out of power now. why not target the current guy who's a lib? Plenty of nazis hate trump for not being right wing enough but they're not gonna minecraft him over it. It doesn't add up as a motive.
Japan also have election upper house this weekend. Might be related to that
It's like a Nazi killing a Prussian Aristo or and Austro-Fascist. Or the National Anarchists and Carlists to the right of Franco.
Or the National Anarchists and Carlists to the right of Franco.
:bruh: the people who put the word "national" before left ideology are always the worst lol
Oh yeah, we have people that call themselves that here and even the Nazis think they're a bit racist.
my galaxy brain take is to get the rest of his party in line for whatever the spooks are planning next, wild guesses being
- reconciliation with SK and TW for alignment against CN
- shittier economic policies in the greater APAC region to create conditions for a US spatial fix
- idk, even more hawkish military buildup
yeah that makes sense. my only plausible reasoning for why a right wing organization would kill him, is to shut him up about something, or to frame somebody. But that introduces more unknowns.
my only plausible reasoning for why a right wing organization would kill him
Keep in mind that right wing people might have a wildly different view of reality than we do.
I would love it if pepole killed more ex presidents. They should all be living in fear. And if enough of them are killed it serves as a deterrent in the same way prision works for other crimes.
And if enough of them are killed it serves as a deterrent in the same way prision works for other crimes.
So not really at all?
nah, not really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterrence_(penology)#Evidential_flaws
is there a deterrent for "white-collar" crimes? those tend to be more premeditated and seem like they'd be less driven by desperation and therefore more subject to punitive deterrence
That's a doomsday cult, right? They did the gas attacks in the subways?
Yeah, they executed some of them not too long ago. But I’ve said dumbest, not plausible lol
man critical support for Aum Shinrikyo for tryig to liquidate the whole Japanese royal family, a step down for Aleph to only kill an ex PM, but still ok lol. Was Abe PM when they executed Shoko Asahara?
yooo what if it was Fusako Shigenobu, the leader of the Japanese Red Army, who was finally released from prison? Lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusako_Shigenobu#Release
Also Japan does have rural areas where gun ownership is a ton of paperwork (and about a year waiting period from what I've heard), but very much available to people in good standing for pest control. Nara is completely overrun with deer to the point of ecological peril, and there's at least one part of Japan where there's a dangerous overabundance of bears.
iirc you have to collect all your spent hulls and keep meticulous inventory of ammunition as well.
Yeah, apparently to even own a rifle you need to pass the equivalent of a US Military Expert Sharpshooter rating. Which I guess means if someone does decide to go full Minecraft they're gonna hit the target.
the CIA is really trying to take down the UK
I've heard people say this a few times this week? What's the connection here? I know Bojo got couped by his own party this week but don't really know details. Why would the CIA be trying to take down UK? Are relations deteriorating between the UK and US?
If the Americans did this, what would the motive be? Blame Russia? China? North Korea?
Generate nationalist sentiment because of waning support for fighting China?
If America did this, and maybe did :bojo: too, it could just be to break down their allies and make them more subservient as Russia and China are flexing their muscle. But it's doubtful the US did one, let alone both.
My going hypothesis is either organized crime or lone wolf. I don't see any real political gain for killing an ex-politician. What connections, if any, does he have with organized crime?
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Probably also for randomly stating "YO I SUPPORT THIS UNCRITICALLY EVEN IF IT WAS THE FASCIST ATTEMPTED MASS MURDER CULT".
yeah i mentioned that in another comment, but "even if" implies sarcasm/disagreement, especially when you're on site full of shit posters, and they're not the first, nor the last who will say stuff like that.
It probably didn't help that his account was 2 hours old. You'll generally get off with a scolding if you hold off the edgelording until you're a regular.
