The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear
and usually follow it up with a ban. It’s absolutely clear what is happening and
it shouldn’t be allowed to continue.
It’s so funny to read this stuff knowing that Hexbear existed for years as a separate community before any of these people knew what lemmy was. It’s such a classic stupid person move to assume that everything came into existence the moment you became aware of it, always reacting as if your personal experience represents the natural status quo.
Breaking into someone’s house, taking a hot steaming shit in the living room, then whining about your day being ruined when you get kicked out and insisting it’s your house - the lemmitor way
One of the most vile fuckin things I've seen in that thread so far
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One of these things is not like the other dickhead. Imagine lumping in three linked instances of violently omnicidal settler monstrosity AND THEN A PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST OMNICIDAL SETTLERS. God fucking Damn Amerika, biblically.
dude really thinks there's like an actual dial and one side says 'Left' and the other says 'Right' and it's imperative that the arrow on the dial points directly up at all times
Once you actually defend and argue for the continuation of the Overton window "the Overton window" should be what you get thrown out of from at minimum a third story.
The idea behind it is you limit the extents of the terms of debate.
It's why we get vigorous debate about the difference between blue Maga and red Maga to the point its the personal ifentity of like 30% of the country but if you suggest socialized Healthcare your a communist who isn't to be taken seriously.
The idea is this window keeps shifting right turning the debate into whether or not we throw minorities under the bus to appeal to racist whites and now suggesting that immigrants aren't the biggest threat the United States faces is now the ridiculous loony lefty position.
The number of people who don't grasp that Super Earth is the US is astonishing
Literally screaming about freedom and democracy while they're dropping chemical and nuclear weapons on other people
Telling their citizens that everything is fine, keep spending money on guns and Eagle Sweat, but if you even question them, you will die at the hands of the aliens
What's really incredible is their ability to say how we are evil propagandists with a straight face when probably 90+% of hexbears never/rarely interact with a single federated post and mostly just shitpost among ourselves
When we first federated, several instances we had not federated with, had posts on their front page about how they had to defederate from us, because we were brigading. Again this was from instances we were not federated with.
Also a lot of lies about how we would downvote their posts lol. Libs love talking out of their ass.
Our posting power is just so immense that a 10% effort wrecks havoc on them
They really are like "Everyone who disagree with us are a conspiracy". Turns out it's the peoples constantly accusing us of being in an echo chamber who never had their positions challenged until now and couldn't take it when they finally were 😂 .
It was a lot of fun to be able to copy paste the same dunk on the deluge of dummies that would write variants of "oh very interesting that you meet me with this much hostility, simply for challenging your worldview"
Spent a lot of time spelling out to them that, no, saying "putler bad" isn't challenging anything and the hostility they experience actually comes from the fact that they're saying the same shit as every other uneducated person and people are tired of smug assholes thinking the smell of their farts is an innovative and insightful contribution.
“oh very interesting that you meet me with this much hostility, simply for challenging your worldview”
Courtesy of peoples who meet us with hostility simply for challenging their worldview
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They are so smug and terminally lib that they think they don't have to study the political system of a country nor the conditions it exists in in order to understand it, they just need to check the vibes and they are suddenly a turboscholar on the politics and economy of a country they didn't knew existed 2 weeks ago.
In a way it shows how communist countries are treated at a much smaller level. They’re responsible for everything bad and every flaw they have will be held up to a microscope and magnified several times over to make them sound worse than they are .
Oh my god these people make me laugh so much. It's just posting and yet they think they're part of some grand global movement to spread liberalism or defeat Russia or whatever.
It's just a forum lmao. these people are no better than Qanon Facebook groups calling themselves digital soldiers
These fucking nerds I can't. "MuH the Hexbear InForMaTIoN WarFaRE ThReAt". Bro, we are random peoples making shitposts on the internet and so are you, you need to calm the fuck down you're taking this way too seriously.
These peoples are so terminally liberal that they are unironically convinced that there is some secret Hexbear tankie conspiracy to take over the fediverse meanwhile in actuality we are just making posts about our opinions and interests and arguing about them with others the same as they are, our content is just ideologically different from theirs is all.
I'm sorry I was too diplomatic in my response to the question. I've been gone a while, I feel like I need to "be civil" everywhere online. It wont happen again.
well there's the genocide of indigenous americans, chattel slavery, the hindustan famines, colonialism in general, and... i dunno, the dead romanov kids?
If someone is willing to defend nazis, and tries to "both sides" nazis and people fighting against them, they are a nazi and should not be welcome anywhere.
i have absolutely no insight into what is going through that moderator's head. i don't care to justify their actions on a board that i did not know about until i read that thread. i came to hexbear after r/cth got banned and then went offline for a few years so i don't know all of the lemmy drama lore.
i just think it's really funny that someone is this upset about being temporarily banned from a forum for being a tedious centrist loser.
I abandoned an old account because Hexbear bullies followed me around and downvoted everything. Come to think of it, I haven’t posted a single thing since then, and I had a bunch of posts with hundreds of votes.
I would really love to hear what this person thinks could be done in the source code to achieve that. Or for that matter how exactly "the fediverse" currently has the "ability to 'manage' them" lmao
Their worldnews threatens to give me an aneurysm every time I look at it. So many "But waht about ebul dictators! Don't you know CHyna eat hot chip and lie?!?!?!" comments on every single article shared there. Those that go there to educate the libs have the patience of a saint.
Lemmyworld can't defed lemmy without severing its relationship with the developers and that would be absolutely stupid and ridiculous to do. All effort from lemmy official development would go towards promoting something else.
If you don't like the developers the problem you have is with lemmy entirely. Use something made by liberals?
Oh yeah... The problem you have is that liberals don't want a decentralised internet. They don't want to challenge the corporations. They hold the ideology that put them in power in the first place.
So either suck it up and try to understand why it is that leftists are your only option for development like this, or piss off.
its hard to imagine the top minds at beehaw and lemmy.world pulling together enough resources and organization to reimplement lemmy from scratch, but I do think it's a non-zero chance they get it to work. All because they couldn't hang it in rust and can't stand dealing with commies
To be real though, if they somehow succeed it'll just be good riddance, the annoying smuglords will fuck off to wherever and the intellectually honest liberals who are interested in having actual debates and ask questions instead of being a know it all smuglord (aka. the fraction of liberals who are actually worth interacting with) will still be there and above all will be able to talk with us without the discourse being polluted.
In fact now that I think about it, we should really find a way to encourage good faith liberals to talk with us and discourage smuglord behavior, I actually enjoy debating with liberals when they are arguing in good faith.
In fact now that I think about it, we should really find a way to encourage good faith liberals to talk with us and discourage smuglord behavior, I actually enjoy debating with liberals when they are arguing in good faith.
Yes, please talk more about this. People get too aggressive with libs who are good faith but just also philistine.
One thing to do is post a thread where you invite liberals to talk with you and set as a rule that everyone eschews unnecessary rudeness. It's gone well in the past, at least the couple of times that I've seen it done.
I still don't understand the point beehaw is trying to make with their instance or why they think federated systems work when they need to control all parts
"But you see, if I post the gigachad xi image in a comment I win the argument and my stalin posting friends give me an upvote"
This is a person who isn't mad lmao. Why are they all such nerds? They treat an internet forum like it's a sacred space for serious business. Then we arrive screaming emotes, covered in pig shit, causing all their nerd monocles to pop out.
they're responding to someone who got so mad at me for calling Christopher Gadsden and the founding fathers slave owners that he came into my DMs to complain about it lol. also i saw him being incredibly racist towards chinese people in another thread ofc bcs all these libertarian freaks are basically just white nationalists wearing a fake moustache and a trenchcoat to hide their true identity
It's important to be civil after all, as long as they aren't hurling slurs at me personally, why, it would be rude to call them out on their behaviour.
My bad, I forgot that pointing out the bad things and wanting better things is a personal attack on people that want to live in the potemkin reality. Dangit. I keep doing that.
Because their product in the marketplace of ideas fucking sucks, and the only way to sell it to people is to ensure there's nothing better to compare it against.
It’s so funny to read this stuff knowing that Hexbear existed for years as a separate community before any of these people knew what lemmy was. It’s such a classic stupid person move to assume that everything came into existence the moment you became aware of it, always reacting as if your personal experience represents the natural status quo.
Unironically what idealism does to a mf
certified October 7th / February 2022 moment
Breaking into someone’s house, taking a hot steaming shit in the living room, then whining about your day being ruined when you get kicked out and insisting it’s your house - the lemmitor way
I hate when people find threads in a way I do not approve of
They're just frightened by our posting power
i never got to do one of those old BBS raids or flamewars. september ass child crying about reddit being reddit. brigades, what a joke.
One of the most vile fuckin things I've seen in that thread so far
One of these things is not like the other dickhead. Imagine lumping in three linked instances of violently omnicidal settler monstrosity AND THEN A PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST OMNICIDAL SETTLERS. God fucking Damn Amerika, biblically.
the middle of what mate
dude really thinks there's like an actual dial and one side says 'Left' and the other says 'Right' and it's imperative that the arrow on the dial points directly up at all times
the middle of maoism and dengism?
As per Slammer,
Once you actually defend and argue for the continuation of the Overton window "the Overton window" should be what you get thrown out of from at minimum a third story.
Overton defender defenestration
the overton window is a descriptive category isn't it?
The idea behind it is you limit the extents of the terms of debate.
It's why we get vigorous debate about the difference between blue Maga and red Maga to the point its the personal ifentity of like 30% of the country but if you suggest socialized Healthcare your a communist who isn't to be taken seriously.
The idea is this window keeps shifting right turning the debate into whether or not we throw minorities under the bus to appeal to racist whites and now suggesting that immigrants aren't the biggest threat the United States faces is now the ridiculous loony lefty position.
the overton window should be what i want to talk about
We need some overton defenestration
Warren G's Regulate but it's Defenestrate
Defenestrators! M o u n t U p
Unlimited genocide on the first world?
Unlimited and eternal
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Idk what these people are on about, America and its proxies are the most fascist regimes on earth.
No, fascism is what the Western-designated enemy nations do
Unironically doing helldivers propaganda.
The number of people who don't grasp that Super Earth is the US is astonishing
Literally screaming about freedom and democracy while they're dropping chemical and nuclear weapons on other people
Telling their citizens that everything is fine, keep spending money on guns and Eagle Sweat, but if you even question them, you will die at the hands of the aliens
The only distinction is the flag is different
The flag is literally the UN flag with like 4 extra stars.
Managed Democracy™ really does seem like the ideal method of voting to libs
It's a political compass test lmao
Real lefties are people who agree with every statement the DNC puts out and who support Joe Biden.
Internet communists in .world's minds:
nefarious agents of evil governments performing psychological warfare against adherents of the only correct ideology - western neoliberalism
Internet communists irl:
A poorly edited picture of Angela Merkel stretched over a scalene triangle titled "Angular Merkel", 150 upvotes
What's really incredible is their ability to say how we are evil propagandists with a straight face when probably 90+% of hexbears never/rarely interact with a single federated post and mostly just shitpost among ourselves
When we first federated, several instances we had not federated with, had posts on their front page about how they had to defederate from us, because we were brigading. Again this was from instances we were not federated with.
Also a lot of lies about how we would downvote their posts lol. Libs love talking out of their ass.
Our posting power is just so immense that a 10% effort wrecks havoc on them
They really are like "Everyone who disagree with us are a conspiracy". Turns out it's the peoples constantly accusing us of being in an echo chamber who never had their positions challenged until now and couldn't take it when they finally were 😂 .
It was a lot of fun to be able to copy paste the same dunk on the deluge of dummies that would write variants of "oh very interesting that you meet me with this much hostility, simply for challenging your worldview"
Spent a lot of time spelling out to them that, no, saying "putler bad" isn't challenging anything and the hostility they experience actually comes from the fact that they're saying the same shit as every other uneducated person and people are tired of smug assholes thinking the smell of their farts is an innovative and insightful contribution.
Courtesy of peoples who meet us with hostility simply for challenging their worldview
They are so smug and terminally lib that they think they don't have to study the political system of a country nor the conditions it exists in in order to understand it, they just need to check the vibes and they are suddenly a turboscholar on the politics and economy of a country they didn't knew existed 2 weeks ago.
In a way it shows how communist countries are treated at a much smaller level. They’re responsible for everything bad and every flaw they have will be held up to a microscope and magnified several times over to make them sound worse than they are .
That was a fun week
didn't know this was a thing, will file away next to the obamacrons
Its not a thing afaik, I delved into my sleep deprived mind for the platonic ideal of a Hexbear shitpost and it came to me.
It has been willed into existence.
https://hexbear.net/post/2099887
Every third+ comment in a comment reply chain has the
emote...
https://hexbear.net/post/2099887
get to it, piggies
Lol, lmao.
I am asymmetric information warfare, will some please by my failed lemmy experiment 🥺
wtf there's a hexbear outreach program and yet I have not been contacted
edit: to clarify these are all different comments
Dog what do they think this is, it's a reddit clone dumbass, get a grip
They're still in their "posting shit on a friendly forum where everyone agrees with you is internet activism" stage of internet activism
Getting owned for my occasional bad takes has, oddly enough, improved my shrex life.
Which, I would like to point out, is not my sex life. It's the romance one experiences from only watching Prestige Shrek1.
1 Shrek 2 on loop 24/7.
B-b-but this is what hexbear is for me lol
That's fine, the distinction is (ideally) you don't think you are building your 0.0001% of communism by doing it
Lol yeah I have literally zero illusions that posting leads to any material changes. I just enjoy chatting with my comrades.
Deeply unserious people
Whenever a tankie says someone's deeply unserious they're actually saying they want to kill that person
I mean...
Sometimes...
Reddit was/is an asymmetric information warfare platform wielded by the feds.
Everyone on there posts in this insufferable overly dramatic lib tone, it's the worst.
Oh my god these people make me laugh so much. It's just posting and yet they think they're part of some grand global movement to spread liberalism or defeat Russia or whatever.
It's just a forum lmao. these people are no better than Qanon Facebook groups calling themselves digital soldiers
What tankies consider core tech in tankieland: High speed rail, quantum computers, EVs, railguns, solar panel factories...
Actual Real World Incredibly Important Core Technologies: A reddit clone.
also classic libs taking credit/ownership of shit built by communists
Then fork the server dorks. No one's telling you to stay.
My stalin posting friends, if you post the gigachad xi image, I WILL upbear you
Suck off a liberal...
Okay
These peoples are so terminally liberal that they are unironically convinced that there is some secret Hexbear tankie conspiracy to take over the fediverse meanwhile in actuality we are just making posts about our opinions and interests and arguing about them with others the same as they are, our content is just ideologically different from theirs is all.
aka, people disagreeing with me on the internet
It's asymmetric because I'm wrong and that's unfair
all this for being banned for a week for saying "shooting nazis makes you the same as the nazis"
this is so out of place and context (idrc about it) but how is a ban justified for a single opinion comment like that lmao
For the record and so people stop reporting it, user was comm b& for a week for posting this. Comment left up for those who want to continue dunking.update: I decided AutomatedPossum was right, ban is now permanent
I'm sorry I was too diplomatic in my response to the question. I've been gone a while, I feel like I need to "be civil" everywhere online. It wont happen again.
That single opinion
well there's the genocide of indigenous americans, chattel slavery, the hindustan famines, colonialism in general, and... i dunno, the dead romanov kids?
Don't get me wrong, America isn't good or anything. In the context of ww2, the allies were far better then the axis powers.
yeah i was just doing the not what they meant thing.
Dont restart the Romanov discussion
If someone is willing to defend nazis, and tries to "both sides" nazis and people fighting against them, they are a nazi and should not be welcome anywhere.
Pro-nazi apologetics will not be tolerated, under any circumstance
i have absolutely no insight into what is going through that moderator's head. i don't care to justify their actions on a board that i did not know about until i read that thread. i came to hexbear after r/cth got banned and then went offline for a few years so i don't know all of the lemmy drama lore.
i just think it's really funny that someone is this upset about being temporarily banned from a forum for being a tedious centrist loser.
If your opinion is that stupid then yeah
Just make a new account.
There is no due process here and there doesn't need to be
the only problem i see here is that somebody who openly defended nazis was banned for just a week, that's way too lenient
You're right, made it permanent
OH NO MUH UPDOOTS
lmao, losers don't know we can't even downbear them
But you don't understand
I had lots of updoots.
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Take notes: Bullying libs works
Or you know... Maybe peoples saw your posts on their feed and downvoted because your posts were stupid or bad 🤷 .
And Hexbear don't have downvotes so this person is either lying or don't know what they are talking about anyways.
Lmao the Lemmy version of crying about being Shadow banned because your tweet got no likes
There's a specter haunting the source code of Lemmy
*programs with communistic intent*
I wonder which ideologies are the most cool with you propagating the fruits of their labour without compensation
I would really love to hear what this person thinks could be done in the source code to achieve that. Or for that matter how exactly "the fediverse" currently has the "ability to 'manage' them" lmao
Being Open Source.
The software’s codebase is ideologically communist!
Edit: ol' reliable
"Not everyone you disagree with is a fascist, also you are a fascist"
Right? Is this satirical? Please tell me this is satire...
Its funny because .ml can be so lib sometimes
Their worldnews threatens to give me an aneurysm every time I look at it. So many "But waht about ebul dictators! Don't you know CHyna eat hot chip and lie?!?!?!" comments on every single article shared there. Those that go there to educate the libs have the patience of a saint.
Funny how they have this vendetta against anything Hexbear related, but took forever to defederate the fascist and CSAM instances.
Lemmyworld can't defed lemmy without severing its relationship with the developers and that would be absolutely stupid and ridiculous to do. All effort from lemmy official development would go towards promoting something else.
If you don't like the developers the problem you have is with lemmy entirely. Use something made by liberals?
Oh yeah... The problem you have is that liberals don't want a decentralised internet. They don't want to challenge the corporations. They hold the ideology that put them in power in the first place.
So either suck it up and try to understand why it is that leftists are your only option for development like this, or piss off.
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I was literally just going to comment this. They are trying to build their own lemmy, with blackjack, and java (and no tankies, I assume)
lol good luck with that
its hard to imagine the top minds at beehaw and lemmy.world pulling together enough resources and organization to reimplement lemmy from scratch, but I do think it's a non-zero chance they get it to work. All because they couldn't hang it in rust and can't stand dealing with commies
Imagining a software project where everyone believes they are the manager and no one is doing any work. This will surely show those Hexbears
To be real though, if they somehow succeed it'll just be good riddance, the annoying smuglords will fuck off to wherever and the intellectually honest liberals who are interested in having actual debates and ask questions instead of being a know it all smuglord (aka. the fraction of liberals who are actually worth interacting with) will still be there and above all will be able to talk with us without the discourse being polluted.
In fact now that I think about it, we should really find a way to encourage good faith liberals to talk with us and discourage smuglord behavior, I actually enjoy debating with liberals when they are arguing in good faith.
Yes, please talk more about this. People get too aggressive with libs who are good faith but just also philistine.
One thing to do is post a thread where you invite liberals to talk with you and set as a rule that everyone eschews unnecessary rudeness. It's gone well in the past, at least the couple of times that I've seen it done.
I still don't understand the point beehaw is trying to make with their instance or why they think federated systems work when they need to control all parts
I get Java could get them more devs but fuck why would anyone voluntarily choose it as their language on something new
what does that mean?
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what the hell...
why would they make it in java?
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ew that sounds disgusting.
This is a person who isn't mad lmao. Why are they all such nerds? They treat an internet forum like it's a sacred space for serious business. Then we arrive screaming emotes, covered in pig shit, causing all their nerd monocles to pop out.
they're responding to someone who got so mad at me for calling Christopher Gadsden and the founding fathers slave owners that he came into my DMs to complain about it lol. also i saw him being incredibly racist towards chinese people in another thread ofc bcs all these libertarian freaks are basically just white nationalists wearing a fake moustache and a trenchcoat to hide their true identity
I am continuing my belief that most of the people who don't like us are racists who don't like how we can see directly through their masks
Racists and Homophobes! Don't forget about them!
And misogynists and transphobes and really any sort of bigotry that liberals learn to look past
It's important to be civil after all, as long as they aren't hurling slurs at me personally, why, it would be rude to call them out on their behaviour.
Boy they sure did get mad about somebody posting GigaXi at them.
Live .world reaction
Debateculture and its consequences
This place is like a big cuddle party 99% of the time.
Why the fuck the 'marketplace of ideas' crowd get so offended by us?
Utilizing materialism to form a coherent worldview is, unfortunately, Authoritarian
My bad, I forgot that pointing out the bad things and wanting better things is a personal attack on people that want to live in the potemkin reality. Dangit. I keep doing that.
Because their product in the marketplace of ideas fucking sucks, and the only way to sell it to people is to ensure there's nothing better to compare it against.
Spookily analogous to real capitalist "free markets"
Seeing people generally get along online is to then like being HP Lovecraft and seeing either a fish or a Portuguese man.
I read this line and "Lovecraft in Brooklyn" started playing in my head
GONNA GO DOWN TO THE PAWN SHOP AND BUY MYSELF A SWITCHBLADE
Cuddles are communism