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we must imagine ourselves as nazis to understand the nazis and how they made the good pills, the chaos dragon pills (sobs) when men were powerful and powerful men were nazis (crying) where have all the strong men gone? where are all the gods? where’s the street wise hercules to sell me pills?
spoiler: you don’t need to imagine yourself as a fascist to hit one in the head with a baseball bat
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While I'm glad that there's at least once fascist capable of showing an emotion without worrying about toxic masculinity... it doesn't make him any less of a scum-sucking fruit basket.
If I'm not mistaken there are several hours of Jordan Peterson rambling about this topic and basically just regurgitating "the banality of evil." Like yeah we know social pressure can make people do bad things but camp guard posts were given as a cushy reward to SS officers who were considered really good at their job so that concept doesn't really apply.
it also undermines a lot of his messaging, isn't it? The idea you'd simply be a different person if you were born at a different time in a different country. Yeah, societal pressure and the promise of rewards will push people into adopting ideological stances they wouldn't otherwise have. But that's what we say, that people are the product of their material circumstances and ideology is downhill from experiences, not the other way around.
But Peterson's also a proponent of hierarchy and personal development and all that so I really don't know where he thinks he's coming from on this topic. Or any topic. He's a goof.
But Peterson’s also a proponent of hierarchy and personal development and all that so I really don’t know where he thinks he’s coming from on this topic. Or any topic. He’s a goof.
Say many words, elucidate on nothing, sound really smart, sell many books. A totally profitable grift and nothing more
You don’t want to see JoPo’s version of that, there’s a non-zero chance it involves drag and shoe polish.
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He made contact with a Soviet partisan unit named "Death to Fascism". Despite their initial suspicions and repeated interrogations, Schmenkel convinced the partisans that he had a genuine desire to fight against the Nazis. He won their trust by killing a German soldier who, by coincidence, attempted to set fire to the house where the partisans had their base.
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wearing captured German uniforms, including one belonging to a Wehrmacht general, Schmenkel led German military units into ambushes arranged by the partisans. This helped the partisans capture entire units of Wehrmacht soldiers, as well as ammunition and food.
Wait did he kill the German soldier while the soldier was trying to burn the house down, or did he just happen to kill te exact right soldier?
Read a little bit about him elsewhere, seems like the Soviets didn't let him have a gun at first because they didn't trust him. They gave him binoculars and let him be a spotter. Then their village got surrounded by Nazis and Schmenkel found a rifle (probably off a dead guy) and started blasting. Killed a Nazi on his first shot. I guess one of the Nazis he killed turned out to be someone the Soviets already knew as the guy who tried to burn their base down. So that finally got the Soviets to trust him.
Also there seems to be a lot of conflicting stories and mythology surrounding this guy, probably because everything known about him came from really tired traumatized soldiers. Found another version of the story where he asked for a gun instead of finding one, so who knows.
:gigachad: chad defector joining the partisans and helping them kill Nazis
His name is absolutely a Simpsons invention, but what an absolute chad regardless
Ok, I'm imagining it. Ok, I killed every Nazi in sight, unlocked the gates, gave jews guns, then killed myself for past crimes
Imagine yourself sighting in your Mosin from the treeline 250 meters away from an Auschwitz guard
useful exercise to remember you are a result of the conditions around you, wonder how he fumbled it.
A big term he uses is banal evil and how the world operates on banal evil but instead of countering it a big point is accepting it as an inherent human outcome (i.e. banal evil doesn't mean people should be punished for it). This falls apart in multiple ways such as when great man theory is discussed and not understanding that the Nazi movement in Germany occurred due to already existing fascistic and fascist favoring individuals desiring to and enacting the conditions to create that banal evil and fighting socialists within society not wanting to succumb to that horrid end point.
Yeah, it's a lot of babble talk and incoherent connections and then he usually folds back to his initial talking point or says some esoteric sounding shit (the man was never a philosopher by trade and his doctorate is actually in psychology funny enough yet he spends so much time talking outside of his academic wheelhouse).
Despite how prominent he has been over the past 5-6 years, I can't get over how bad of a speaker he is. Not only is his voice horrible to listen to, he has seemingly made no effort to be more articulate, or be more concise. It's all weird mysticism asnd reaction, which is why he has an audience, but it's fucking grating that chuds seemingly get through life making no effort.
Sam Harris, Max Boot, Jordan Peterson & Steven Pinker
The 4 Horsemen of deranged reactionary hypotheticals and thought experiments
Ole JP, pants around ankles, lips foaming with benzos, furiously thinking about the possibility of being a guard in Auschwitz.
yes daddy can i [redacted by order of the volcel police] now?
I'm imagining it but I keep hearing this voice from the future... something something, "and everyone around you?" It seems like I should listen to it.
Back in high school, I was watching some philosophy videos and saw a video on the side bar titled some shit like "Why Hitler was so evil." I clicked on it because it was an intriguing title but didn't watch the video because this man's voice is irritating, but I somehow became a peterson fan for a couple of months because I found out he was an epic master debater who owned the libs with green hair and that's all that matters for a high schooler in 2018
